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Meeting of the Parliament 11 June 2026 [Last updated 19:16]

11 Jun 2026 · S7 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Public Service Reform (Staff, Service Users and Local Communities)
McKee, Ivan SNP Glasgow Easterhouse and Springburn Watch on SPTV

I thank the member for his comments. He can rest assured that all my Cabinet colleagues are 100 per cent on board with this important agenda and the First Minister has his weight behind it. We have the strategy, which lays out everything that needs to be done across 18 workstreams. People have asked why there are so many workstreams—as many as 18—and the reason is precisely that, as Mr Rennie identifies, there is an awful lot of work to be done here across a very broad front. That is laid out, with more than 80 actions, and we are moving forward on all of those, because it is important that they come together as we take the agenda forward.

The empowerment of communities is critical to our agenda—communities coming together to address the unique needs and challenges of their local area; working hand in hand with the public sector in bringing new ideas and fresh thinking on how to deliver better services and improve people’s lives; taking ownership and stewardship of lands and buildings, thanks to legislation from the Government; and being partners in how services are designed, making sure that they are focused on what is important to people locally. Our democracy matters work has shown that there is a real appetite for people to have more control and influence over how services are designed and—importantly—how money is spent.

Service delivery must also adapt to meet the unique needs of rural, island and urban areas. Our single-authority model, working with island communities, is leading the way on how integration of services locally can improve service delivery. By empowering communities further, we will build capacity in all our towns, villages and neighbourhoods to do more, making public services more agile, responsive and accountable to the people that they serve.

Public service reform is also very important in unlocking improvements through empowering the staff who work in our services and who know them best to come forward with ideas to make those services better and their work more fulfilling. I will be clear: a culture that does not empower staff, and leaders who do not see that as central to their role, must change. Organisations that are excessively hierarchical, with multiple layers of management, and stifling to innovation, need to change. We will work closely with our trade union partners to deliver that change.

No one who uses or works in public services would say that they are as streamlined or seamless as they should be. Everyone can identify waste in the system. That is why efficiency is a core part of public service reform—tackling duplication; sharing services across organisations; making better use of data, digital tools and our public estate; and being honest about where we can improve.

That is why we have set ambitious targets. Every pound that is saved through doing things better is a pound that we can invest in care, education and communities.

That is not something that the Government can do alone. Partnership is required with public bodies, local government, trade unions, businesses and communities—and across parties. Everyone will want to provide excellent public services.

Every party recognises the need for change—although, to be fair, in their amendments, some have articulated that more coherently than have others. The Parliament can come together to deliver the change that is needed. I am more than happy to work with colleagues who are here today to make that possible. I invite members to work with me, give me their positive ideas and ensure with me that our public services continue to meet the expectations and needs of the people of Scotland.

I move,

That the Parliament welcomes that the Scottish Government’s Public Service Reform Strategy centres on the importance of prevention in the development of public services; believes that it is vital to empower staff, service users and local communities to be part of the design and delivery of services that meet the needs of the people of Scotland, and agrees that the delivery of excellent and sustainable public services should be the goal of public service reform, rather than the preservation of existing corporate structures.

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In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S7M-00309, in the name of Ivan McKee, on public service reform: empowering staff, service users and local com...
The Cabinet Secretary for Public Service Reform (Ivan McKee) SNP
I am delighted to open this afternoon’s debate on public service reform, which I believe will be the defining task of this session of Parliament.Public servi...
Andrew Baxter (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (LD) LD
I am glad that the cabinet secretary has got on to talking about prevention, which was a central tenet of the Christie commission report. I listened to the c...
Ivan McKee SNP
I will talk more about that in the course of my remarks, but, briefly, prevention is one of the four core principles of the Christie commission. When we publ...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Con) Con
The Christie commission was established in 2011. We are talking about prevention, which was mentioned then, and about joined-up working, which was also menti...
Ivan McKee SNP
I do not know whether the member came into the debate late, but she should have heard the first part of my speech in which I listed a whole page of things th...
Willie Rennie (Fife North East) (LD) LD
I agree with all of that, but it sounds as if the cabinet secretary is trying to run the whole of Government by himself. Can he give us an idea of how he is ...
Ivan McKee SNP
I thank the member for his comments. He can rest assured that all my Cabinet colleagues are 100 per cent on board with this important agenda and the First Mi...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to speak to the amendment in my name, in which we set out very clearly, as we did in the election campaign just a few short weeks ago, that Labo...
Michael Marra Lab
If the cabinet secretary wants to tell me that vision, I will gladly hear it right now.
Ivan McKee SNP
Michael Marra talks about fiscal sustainability being the driver. That is one aspect, of course; however, as I articulated in my opening remarks, the driver ...
Michael Marra Lab
I will say two things in response to that. First, I am sure that the cabinet secretary is a keen advocate for that, but I would believe him a bit more if we ...
Malcolm Offord (West Scotland) (Reform) Reform
I congratulate Ivan McKee on his appointment. His role could be the most interesting in the Parliament in the next five years; if he delivers on the targets ...
Willie Rennie LD
What Malcom Offord says is interesting. From his extensive experience as a Conservative minister in the UK Government, what can he teach members about reform...
Malcolm Offord Reform
I will be delighted to cover that, because there are some insights that I was able to glean when I was a minister in the UK Government. Those are part of the...
Ivan McKee SNP
The New Zealand example is instructive. The big difference is that, as a country of 5 million people, New Zealand is a normal independent country. It does no...
Malcolm Offord Reform
Of course, the response to that is that Scotland spends £117 billion but raises £87 billion in taxes, so there is a £30 billion structural deficit that is pa...
Lorna Slater (Edinburgh Central) (Green) Green
Reforming our public services means making sure that they are sustainable for the long term. It also means ensuring that they are delivering what we need the...
Michael Marra Lab
It strikes me that that is precisely what Scottish Labour’s amendment describes. We must understand the shape of those public bodies, decide where there is d...
Lorna Slater Green
The Labour amendment specifically talks about cutting public bodies, but not about making sure that their remits do not overlap, which would involve changing...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP
I call Murdo Fraser, who joins us online.15:47
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I should explain that I am having to contribute remotely today due to a family issue; otherwise, I would be in the chamber.I welcome Ivan McKee to his new ro...
Ivan McKee SNP
I have been through this a number of times with Mr Fraser, but we will go back through it again for his benefit.First, what he calls the black hole is a proj...
Murdo Fraser Con
We will come on to waste in a moment—I have some suggestions to make in that regard—but I refer Mr McKee to today’s Accounts Commission report on local gover...
Ivan McKee SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Murdo Fraser Con
I will happily give way again if I get the time back.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP
Cabinet secretary, I am afraid that Mr Fraser is in his last minute or so.
Murdo Fraser Con
Perhaps the cabinet secretary could respond to that point in his winding-up speech. I will cover a couple of other points quickly.Fourthly, we need to focus ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP
You must wind up, Mr Fraser.
Murdo Fraser Con
We want to see that black hole in the public finances closed. It needs to close. We need to hear the meat of the Government’s argument on what public service...