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Meeting of the Parliament 10 June 2026 [Draft]

10 Jun 2026 · S7 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Public Trust in Scottish Politics
Hepburn, Jamie SNP Cumbernauld and Kilsyth Watch on SPTV

In the interests of transparency, I place on the record that my wife is presently employed by the Scottish National Party and has been since April 2023.

I begin by stating emphatically and clearly that what Peter Murrell did represents a serious breach of trust. His guilty plea makes that beyond dispute. Over more than a decade, he used his position of privilege to embezzle more than £400,000 from the Scottish National Party—my party—and from the many dedicated members and activists who placed their faith in him: people whom I and other SNP politicians know and have campaigned alongside for many years. That is a matter of settled record that has, quite understandably, shone a spotlight on the relationship between the public and elected representatives. We all recognise that it has led to some people calling into question a sense of trust in our political system.

For that very reason, it is my belief that the Parliament must be disciplined in its response—a response that must not be about protecting any single party and must not be about promoting any other; rather, it must be about protecting the integrity of the Parliament itself.

Let us be very clear about what is actually being proposed. We are being asked to agree to conduct an inquiry, presumably through the convening of a parliamentary committee comprised of elected representatives of competing political parties, to scrutinise the internal financial operations of one of those competing parties. Every single member who would sit on such a committee has a direct material interest in the outcome of its findings. Their parties contest the same seats. They seek support from the same electorate. They fight the same elections. Therefore, it is surely reasonable to question whether any inquiry and any committee constituted under those conditions could be independent or, at the very least, could be held to be independent.

I believe that there is an obvious conflict of interest in parties investigating each other in this way. When conflict of interest is baked into the very structure of a proposed parliamentary inquiry, no amount of procedural formality can remove that partiality or, at the very least, the perception that such an inquiry would fail to meet the test of impartiality.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP
Before we begin the next item of business, I would like to say that the proceedings against Peter Murrell remain active until he has been sentenced. The sub ...
Anas Sarwar (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
The choice before us in this debate is simple. Do we believe in honesty, openness, transparency and the rule of law? Is this a Parliament that believes that ...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
I ask this quite sincerely: does Mr Sarwar genuinely believe what he just said—that this is the greatest political scandal in the history of devolution—when ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP
I remind members that criminal cases remain active and that the sub judice rule is engaged.
Anas Sarwar Lab
I say gently to Mr Greer that that is a shocking case that relates to individual behaviour, but today we are talking about a systematic culture of cover-up a...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Made a request to intervene.
Anas Sarwar Lab
If I get the time back, I will happily take an intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP
You can, Mr Sarwar.
Patrick Harvie Green
I wonder whether Anas Sarwar applies the same principle—if people have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear—to our argument that, if there is to be an ...
Anas Sarwar Lab
I have sympathy for the argument that Patrick Harvie has made, and I have sympathy with the Green amendment. There should be greater transparency on party fi...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Jamie Hepburn) SNP
In the interests of transparency, I place on the record that my wife is presently employed by the Scottish National Party and has been since April 2023.I beg...
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I assert that what the minister has said is outrageous. He has called into question the very idea of why we have parliamentary committees and parliamentary i...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
I am not convinced that that intervention was particularly worth hearing. We presumably all accept the objective fact that the issue in question is the forme...
Stephen Kerr Con
You should be in favour of an inquiry.
Jamie Hepburn SNP
If the member is suggesting that it is not the Scottish National Party that is the victim in this case, I do not know who he thinks the victim is.This picks ...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way?
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh North Western) (LD) LD
Will he give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP
Not at the moment.I believe that the Parliament has a proud and good record of constructive committee work. It is not always easy or straightforward. It is w...
Michael Marra Lab
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP
Can I check, Presiding Officer: if I give way, will I get the time back?
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Clare Adamson) SNP
Yes. The Presiding Officer has agreed that that should be the case for all debates if you take an intervention.
Michael Marra Lab
I appreciate the minister giving way. Would he not recognise that there is a question of public money paid in Short money to the SNP? There are questions of ...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
Any of those questions will be dealt with by the Electoral Commission. That issue has already been raised in Parliament. The question was asked of the First ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
It was about HMRC.
Jamie Hepburn SNP
I think that the question was about Short money, Ms Baillie, and it would be a matter for the Electoral Commission.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP
I will give way one more time, to Mr Cole-Hamilton.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
The minister suggests that it would be inappropriate for a committee of inquiry to investigate the issue, but we have the Standards, Procedures and Public Ap...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
Government ministers are, quite correctly, accountable for their Government ministerial responsibilities, and they will be held to account by the Parliament....
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way?