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Meeting of the Parliament 26 May 2026 [Draft]

26 May 2026 · S7 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Independence Referendum

I will start again.

Is it any wonder that 2 million Scots did not vote in the election on 7 May?

Holyrood controls 60 per cent of the spending in Scotland. Moreover, with control over devolved matters in this chamber, it controls 80 per cent of daily life in Scotland: our schools, hospitals, roads, policing and communities. That is what hard-working Scots want this Parliament to focus on—how to build prosperity for families and communities, not endless debates on the neverendum question.

So, why does the SNP indulge itself by continually debating matters that are reserved to Westminster? We all know why. It is a deflection strategy, because the SNP does not want to focus on the track record of what it has done in the day job: the fact that our economy is anaemic and promotes welfare over work; the fact that our taxes are too high and provide a disincentive to productivity; the fact that our planning is so bad that small and medium-sized enterprises are shutting down; the fact that 93 per cent of Scots say that healthcare needs reform; and the fact that, in education, our schools have gone from outstanding to average, and the attainment gap is widening; the fact that in jobs and skills, we have three quarters of a million adult Scots not working, yet we bring in 300 welders from the Philippines to work in our shipyards; and the fact that community cohesion is breaking down in our most vulnerable communities.

That is why 2 million Scots did not vote. There is no point, because nothing changes. All we get is managed decline and mid-table mediocrity—they are scunnered by the SNP. Things are never its fault—it is always the victim.

Let us turn to the motion on indyref 2. The First Minister asked a question: is the UK a voluntary union? There has never been any doubt that it is a voluntary union. Margaret Thatcher made it very clear to Alex Salmond that the UK was a voluntary union; she said to him that she did not want the UK to break up, but that if he delivered a democratic mandate from the Scottish people to leave the UK, they could leave the UK. The Tories have got themselves in a mess on this, because all they ever say is no—it is always no—to another referendum.

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Anas Sarwar (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I say first that although I welcome much of the content of the First Minister’s opening statement, the reality is that the contrast between that statement an...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Neil Gray) SNP
We have had a test of some of Mr Sarwar’s theories in recent weeks because we have had an election and the people have decided. Would it not be better if Mr ...
Anas Sarwar Lab
Mr Gray will argue his view and I am going to argue mine—that is democracy. The reality is that there is a mix of views across the country, as was clear duri...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Members who take interventions do not have the time taken from them, but it is still up to members to decide whether they take interventions.14:27
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
I see that Mr Sarwar’s constructive and collaborative tone lasted about a week in this place. Clearly, no lessons have been learned from the election.Every G...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh North Western) (LD) LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Ross Greer Green
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Craig Hoy (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
If Ross Greer believes in democracy and giving voters a choice, why did the Scottish Green Party stand in so few constituencies?
Ross Greer Green
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Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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The Presiding Officer NPA
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Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh North Western) (LD) LD
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Ross Greer Green
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Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
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The Minister for Business and Fair Work (Tom Arthur) SNP
Will the member give way?
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Will the member give way?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I do not have time—
The Presiding Officer NPA
You do have time.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Okay—I will take an intervention from Tom Arthur.
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The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Malcolm Offord.14:45
Malcolm Offord (West Scotland) (Reform) Reform
So, here we go again—welcome back to groundhog day. Doesn’t the SNP just love debating matters that are reserved to Westminster instead of doing the day job?...
Members
We cannot hear—turn the microphone round.
Malcolm Offord Reform
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Neil Gray SNP
What is the democratic mandate?
Malcolm Offord Reform
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