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Meeting of the Parliament 27 May 2026 [Draft]

27 May 2026 · S7 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Childcare

I do not think that it is realistic to say that progress has not been made. In my first response to Willie Rennie, I noted that Scotland is the only place in the UK that funds the real living wage, because we have put fair work at the centre of our expansion to 1,140. I say to members across the chamber that I understand that there are a number of areas that we need to learn from with regard to 1,140 and that I will discuss those with them. That is a broad commitment.

I want to acknowledge parents and carers who are wrestling every day with the joys and challenges of raising children. They do that with varying support networks and in a cost of living crisis, but they always do it to the best of their ability. I saw that this morning and I thank them for that.

That allows me to say, in my first debate as Cabinet Secretary for Education, Culture and Gaelic, that I am proud to take over this area, which has been prioritised by the Scottish Government: from the baby box, which provides the essentials for the first six months of life, to our transformational 1,140 childcare offer; and from our breakfast and after-school club investment to free school meal provision, investment in health visiting, family nurse partnerships, supporting women with breastfeeding and, of course, the groundbreaking Scottish child payment. I am very proud of the fact that we are putting in place the building blocks of success for children in Scotland.

On that note, my colleague Shirley-Anne Somerville, who spoke in the chamber before me, published “Bringing Hope, Building Futures” prior to the dissolution of the Parliament. It sets out the concrete action that we will take in pursuit of our goal of eradicating child poverty in Scotland, which we estimate will keep 100,000 children out of relative poverty this year. Surely that is a goal that we can all get behind.

In its aim of eradicating child poverty, the plan is absolutely clear that supporting parents and carers who are currently locked out of the labour market to work is an important part of our work. We know that those barriers exist particularly for women, who are more likely to take on caring responsibilities, reduce their working hours, or feel that they cannot work at all because it does not make financial sense. That is fine if that is what families choose to do, but it is not fine if it is not a choice. I have that at the forefront of my mind. We will take action to remove those barriers, not only because it is the right thing for families but because it is the right thing for our economy.

I will look for a moment at the Government’s record in childcare and what we have been delivering to date: the universal early learning and childcare offer for every three and four-year-old, as well as around a quarter of two-year-olds. They are often referred to as “eligible two-year-olds”, but I prefer what the City of Edinburgh Council calls them, which I was told today is “terrific twos”. We are delivering that through an investment of around £1 billion a year, which is worth about £6,400 per family per eligible child. I think that we would all agree that that is a sizeable contribution to family budgets. It has to be said that going from the around 600 hours that we inherited when we came into government to delivering the 1,140 hours that parents have been benefiting from since 2021 is a massive achievement. We are also clear that now is the time to move on to the next transformational change in provision.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S7M-00128, in the name of Màiri McAllan, on expanding childcare. I invite members who wish to speak in the de...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education, Culture and Gaelic (Màiri McAllan) SNP
I am delighted to open the debate for the Government on the important topic of early learning and childcare and the Government’s plans to transform provision...
Willie Rennie (Fife North East) (LD) LD
I echo that appreciation for the work that those early learning and childcare professionals do. However, if the cabinet secretary believes that, will she fin...
Màiri McAllan SNP
When it comes to pay, I am proud that Scotland is the only part of the United Kingdom that, through its funding for early learning and childcare, creates the...
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Did I understand correctly that the cabinet secretary said that the lack of parity that Willie Rennie identified, which she has acknowledged, will be address...
Màiri McAllan SNP
We are in the early days of a significant expansion project. I say to the chamber that I am open minded about learning with regard to the delivery of 1,140 h...
Willie Rennie LD
The difficulty is that the cabinet secretary’s predecessors have been open minded for years about the issue and we have not made any progress. We need more t...
Màiri McAllan SNP
I do not think that it is realistic to say that progress has not been made. In my first response to Willie Rennie, I noted that Scotland is the only place in...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Con) Con
The Scottish Government announced in 2023 that it would expand funded childcare from nine months onwards. What progress has been made since that promise?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I was going to come to that later, but I will address it now. I will talk about some of the work that we have been doing in our priority communities. We have...
Victor Currie (Highlands and Islands) (Reform) Reform
The previous expansion to 1,140 hours, which the cabinet secretary has mentioned a few times, required an additional 4,000 full-time equivalent staff. If the...
Màiri McAllan SNP
The member is absolutely right to point out the importance of the workforce. The workforce, which consists mainly of women, is the single most important fact...
Stephen Kerr Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way on that point?
Màiri McAllan SNP
Will I get the time back, Presiding Officer?
The Presiding Officer NPA
Yes.
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will, of course, give way.
Stephen Kerr Con
I want to follow up on the previous question and what the cabinet secretary has just said. What are the Government’s estimates on the number of additional st...
Màiri McAllan SNP
In our manifesto, we set out an estimate of about £500 million. However, the Government is in the early days of developing the policy, so the estimates on co...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, cabinet secretary. I call Katherine Sangster to speak to and move amendment S7M-00128.2. I remind members that this is Katherine Sangster’s first ...
Katherine Sangster (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab) Lab
It is a huge privilege to make my maiden speech as Scottish Labour and Co-operative MSP for Edinburgh and Lothians East. I thank the voters across our commun...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
Every child deserves the best possible start in life. Every parent deserves the chance to work, study, rest or simply breathe without the crushing anxiety of...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab
I call Meghan Gallacher to speak to and move amendment S7M-00128.4.15:02
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I welcome you to your post. I also welcome the cabinet secretary to her post.I will begin on a point of consensus with the Scot...
Màiri McAllan SNP
I hear Meghan Gallacher’s points about delivery and public trust. I take the opportunity, early in the development of the policy, to acknowledge the importan...
Meghan Gallacher Con
I said right at the start that I believe in expanding childcare. Later in my contribution, I will speak about what I believe it should be expanded to, but I ...
Stephen Kerr Con
Would the member go as far as to say that, unless the disparity in funding is properly tackled now, the expansion, which we all support, will fail?
Meghan Gallacher Con
When I entered the Parliament in 2021, one of the first issues that came across my desk was that the PVI sector did not feel part of the overall 1,140-hour p...
Willie Rennie (Fife North East) (LD) LD
I will begin where Meghan Gallacher and Stephen Kerr finished. We need to get the fundamentals of the provision of ELC in Scotland right before we look to ex...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab
I call Angela Ross to make her first speech.15:16
Angela Ross (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Reform) Reform
I, too, congratulate the cabinet secretary on her appointment.As this is my first speech, I thank the voters of Edinburgh and Lothians East, who have put the...