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Meeting of the Parliament 27 May 2026 [Draft]

27 May 2026 · S7 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Childcare
Ross, Angela Reform Edinburgh and Lothians East Watch on SPTV

I, too, congratulate the cabinet secretary on her appointment.

As this is my first speech, I thank the voters of Edinburgh and Lothians East, who have put their trust in me. I will serve them diligently.

I will start by saying a little bit about myself. I have a background in education. For nearly 30 years, I have been either teaching or involved in instructional design, helping public and private organisations globally with learning. I understand the importance of having the appropriate structure and pedagogy for learners of all ages, so this subject is a particular passion of mine.

I am sure that we all agree that every child deserves the best start in life. We all agree that childcare matters for families, for work and for child development. However, agreeing on the principle is not the same as agreeing on the policy. We cannot keep pretending that a system that is already under strain can simply be stretched further without consequences. That is why we cannot support the motion as it is drafted. In the spirit of being constructive, we offer a different approach—one that is targeted, sustainable and grounded in evidence.

We believe that the solution should provide choice for parents, because a system without flexibility and competition risks becoming one in which families have fewer, not more, options. We suggest that the existing 1,140-hour offer should be strengthened by prioritising working families and by targeting support on the basis of need. We insist that funding should follow the child, so that the provision is flexible, transparent and not restricted primarily to council-run delivery. We recommend a phased approach to expansion, with published results and evaluation at each stage, focusing on ages two to five alongside early primary school—that is, primary 1 to 3—wraparound care. A phased approach would allow the opportunity—which we have in the business world—to reflect and to measure, understand and assess success before moving on.

We, in Reform, believe in supporting families and not limiting their options. We believe in childcare that enables work, not a system that ignores cost, capacity and choice. We must also be honest: childcare supports participation in the labour market but it does not, on its own, drive economic growth. It is an enabler, not an engine.

Before the existing system is expanded, we need to ask whether it has delivered as intended. The 1,140-hour policy was meant to improve child development, close the attainment gap and deliver more support for parents who were in work or who wanted to get into work, but, although some progress has been made—I acknowledge that the Government’s policy has had positive aspects—overall, the reported outcomes seem to be mixed. The attainment gap has certainly not narrowed, and the impact on employment has been, to use the Government’s own word, modest. I agree with Willie Rennie that the targeted approach to support for two-year-olds has delivered the best signs of improvement. The more universal provision for children from the age of three onwards seems to be the area that is struggling, and that is where the evidence is far less certain. Therefore, the question before Parliament is not whether access to childcare matters—I am sure we all agree that it does—but whether expanding a universal taxpayer-funded model on such a scale is the right way to achieve the aims set out in the motion.

We must also look at the reality of the system today. The 1,140-hour system costs close to £1 billion without clear and consistent evidence of success. Private nurseries have struggled to deliver funded hours sustainably—some have fallen short and even closed—and there has been a significant loss of places offered by childminders. Staff are under incredible pressure. Surveys by organisations such as Unison have shown the level of stress that staff are experiencing. In some cases, providers are withdrawing from offering funded hours. That raises concerns about long-term capacity and choice for parents. We must remember that, behind the figures, there are real families and real providers. Parents are struggling to find places, and staff are working under tremendous pressure to keep services going. That is not a secure platform for expansion.

There is also the question of funding, as we have heard. Scotland faces significant fiscal pressures, and we are being asked to support an expansion that would require billions more in spending. I think that the £500 million figure is a low estimate.

The motion assumes that economic benefits will follow from the proposed expansion, but that assumption is not guaranteed. The Quebec model is often cited as a good example, but that model was released in times of economic growth and fiscal stability in Quebec. In Scotland, the opposite is the case, and we are being asked to expect childcare to deliver that growth. The reverse is true.

We should be cautious about relying on that aspect. Policy cannot override economic reality. Even if funding could be found, there is the serious issue of the workforce, which we have mentioned previously. Infant care is the most complex and resource-intensive form of childcare, and, if we are to expand entitlement to it, we must take the workforce into consideration. Without a credible workforce plan, not only will further expansion be difficult, but there is a risk that it will be undeliverable.

We encourage a more responsible approach that is not about doing less but about doing things properly. If the intention is to support economic growth, responsible policy must focus on providing support where it is most needed, ensuring that funding follows the child and prioritising working families.

The motion asks Parliament to expand a system that is already under pressure without offering a clear plan for funding or delivery. For the reasons I have given, we cannot support it.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Kenneth Gibson) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S7M-00128, in the name of Màiri McAllan, on expanding childcare. I invite members who wish to speak in the de...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education, Culture and Gaelic (Màiri McAllan) SNP
I am delighted to open the debate for the Government on the important topic of early learning and childcare and the Government’s plans to transform provision...
Willie Rennie (Fife North East) (LD) LD
I echo that appreciation for the work that those early learning and childcare professionals do. However, if the cabinet secretary believes that, will she fin...
Màiri McAllan SNP
When it comes to pay, I am proud that Scotland is the only part of the United Kingdom that, through its funding for early learning and childcare, creates the...
Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Did I understand correctly that the cabinet secretary said that the lack of parity that Willie Rennie identified, which she has acknowledged, will be address...
Màiri McAllan SNP
We are in the early days of a significant expansion project. I say to the chamber that I am open minded about learning with regard to the delivery of 1,140 h...
Willie Rennie LD
The difficulty is that the cabinet secretary’s predecessors have been open minded for years about the issue and we have not made any progress. We need more t...
Màiri McAllan SNP
I do not think that it is realistic to say that progress has not been made. In my first response to Willie Rennie, I noted that Scotland is the only place in...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Con) Con
The Scottish Government announced in 2023 that it would expand funded childcare from nine months onwards. What progress has been made since that promise?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I was going to come to that later, but I will address it now. I will talk about some of the work that we have been doing in our priority communities. We have...
Victor Currie (Highlands and Islands) (Reform) Reform
The previous expansion to 1,140 hours, which the cabinet secretary has mentioned a few times, required an additional 4,000 full-time equivalent staff. If the...
Màiri McAllan SNP
The member is absolutely right to point out the importance of the workforce. The workforce, which consists mainly of women, is the single most important fact...
Stephen Kerr Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way on that point?
Màiri McAllan SNP
Will I get the time back, Presiding Officer?
The Presiding Officer NPA
Yes.
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will, of course, give way.
Stephen Kerr Con
I want to follow up on the previous question and what the cabinet secretary has just said. What are the Government’s estimates on the number of additional st...
Màiri McAllan SNP
In our manifesto, we set out an estimate of about £500 million. However, the Government is in the early days of developing the policy, so the estimates on co...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, cabinet secretary. I call Katherine Sangster to speak to and move amendment S7M-00128.2. I remind members that this is Katherine Sangster’s first ...
Katherine Sangster (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Lab) Lab
It is a huge privilege to make my maiden speech as Scottish Labour and Co-operative MSP for Edinburgh and Lothians East. I thank the voters across our commun...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
Every child deserves the best possible start in life. Every parent deserves the chance to work, study, rest or simply breathe without the crushing anxiety of...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab
I call Meghan Gallacher to speak to and move amendment S7M-00128.4.
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland and Lothians West) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I welcome you to your post. I also welcome the cabinet secretary to her post.I will begin on a point of consensus with the Scot...
Màiri McAllan SNP
I hear Meghan Gallacher’s points about delivery and public trust. I take the opportunity, early in the development of the policy, to acknowledge the importan...
Meghan Gallacher Con
I said right at the start that I believe in expanding childcare. Later in my contribution, I will speak about what I believe it should be expanded to, but I ...
Stephen Kerr Con
Would the member go as far as to say that, unless the disparity in funding is properly tackled now, the expansion, which we all support, will fail?
Meghan Gallacher Con
When I entered the Parliament in 2021, one of the first issues that came across my desk was that the PVI sector did not feel part of the overall 1,140-hour p...
Willie Rennie (Fife North East) (LD) LD
I will begin where Meghan Gallacher and Stephen Kerr finished. We need to get the fundamentals of the provision of ELC in Scotland right before we look to ex...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Katy Clark) Lab
I call Angela Ross to make her first speech.15:16
Angela Ross (Edinburgh and Lothians East) (Reform) Reform
I, too, congratulate the cabinet secretary on her appointment.As this is my first speech, I thank the voters of Edinburgh and Lothians East, who have put the...