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Meeting of the Parliament 26 May 2026 [Draft]

26 May 2026 · S7 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Independence Referendum
Greer, Ross Green West Scotland Watch on SPTV

Mr Hoy may have missed the fact that the Scottish Greens gave every voter in Scotland the opportunity to vote for us, and far more of them chose to do so than chose to vote for the Scottish Conservative Party.

As I said, I respect the arguments for the union and against independence, but I cannot respect the increasingly desperate means that are being used to justify denying the people of Scotland a choice over our future.

The Scottish Greens have always believed that independence is the best choice for Scotland, not as an end but as a means to a greater end. It is our route back into the European Union to undo the incredible damage that Brexit has done and to regain our European citizenships. It would give us the power to tackle poverty through things such as minimum wage laws. It would give us the full fiscal powers that we need to invest in the infrastructure for thriving communities and a successful economy. It would give us power over our energy systems, whereby we could make the switch from an energy regulation system that maximises the profits of a handful of companies to a system that provides affordable energy for everyone.

The independence movement of 2014 grew support for our cause by focusing on that vision and on what we can achieve with the powers of a normal nation. In the 12 years since then—I have to be honest—I think that far too much of our focus as a movement has been on process rather than on the cause and on that vision. We know that much of it is in Westminster’s hands. We believe that that is wrong, but it is the reality. We should focus on what we can change, which is public opinion. There is currently a marginal lead for independence in the polls, but we can concede that the issue is basically 50:50.

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The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Neil Gray) SNP
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Anas Sarwar Lab
Mr Gray will argue his view and I am going to argue mine—that is democracy. The reality is that there is a mix of views across the country, as was clear duri...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Members who take interventions do not have the time taken from them, but it is still up to members to decide whether they take interventions.14:27
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
I see that Mr Sarwar’s constructive and collaborative tone lasted about a week in this place. Clearly, no lessons have been learned from the election.Every G...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh North Western) (LD) LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Ross Greer Green
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Craig Hoy (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
If Ross Greer believes in democracy and giving voters a choice, why did the Scottish Green Party stand in so few constituencies?
Ross Greer Green
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Stephen Kerr (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Will Ross Greer give way on that point?
Ross Greer Green
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The Presiding Officer NPA
Before I call the next speaker, I remind members who wish to speak to press their request-to-speak buttons—not everyone has done that so far.14:34
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Ross Greer Green
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The Minister for Business and Fair Work (Tom Arthur) SNP
Will the member give way?
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Will the member give way?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I do not have time—
The Presiding Officer NPA
You do have time.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Okay—I will take an intervention from Tom Arthur.
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The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Malcolm Offord.14:45
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