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Meeting of the Parliament 04 February 2026

04 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Council Tax

Just a minute. I have not got to the punchline yet. [Laughter.] There is a punchline.

Then, there is a ministerial reshuffle, and the next innocent soul comes in and tries all over again to excite us about the proposals. They say, “Tell us what you want to do.” We then go through the whole thing over and over. I think that I went through three rounds like that.

I am serious when I say this: when ministers say that they are up for reform, frankly, I do not believe them. I do not think that they really want to do it, and I do not think that they will ever do it. I would rather that they were just honest about that and adopted the Conservative position. The Conservatives, to be fair, have been honest about this from the beginning: they want to hold on to the post-Thatcherite tax regime. They are quite keen on it and on the fact that it is 35 years old. They like that. They like the fact that the valuations are stuck way in the past. They like all that, because they are conservatives.

The SNP should just be honest that it favours that as well, because it is too scared to change anything. I get that change is hard. Change is really difficult, but the SNP has not changed things one jot. It has tinkered at the top end and made itself feel virtuous by changing the tax for the upper bands. However, in reality, that has not changed anything for local government, which has not been given a proper settlement that respects its needs so that it can pay for the public services that we demand of it.

I just hope that ministers will take that away and either stop pretending that they are trying to change things or give us something serious. We have had commissions, talks, reviews, expert groups and the wonderful citizens assembly that died a death almost before it started. Let us do something serious if we are serious about reform.

Craig Hoy and the cabinet secretary were talking past each other about whether the 2026-27 settlement represents an increase or a reduction in funding for local government. They were both right, to some extent, because the cabinet secretary was looking to the past and Craig Hoy was looking to the future. However, the central bit of it is that the cabinet secretary said that Craig Hoy was referring to the spending review figures and not the budget figures. Does that mean that the spending review figures are not accurate and that the figures will go up? Will the cabinet secretary tell us that and whether it is guaranteed?

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20654, in the name of Craig Hoy, on opposing the Scottish Government’s proposed council tax rises. I remi...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
In 92 days, Scots will be asked to pass judgment on 19 years of Scottish National Party rule. Nowhere is its record more wanting and damaging than in relatio...
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Shona Robison) SNP
Will the member give way?
Craig Hoy Con
I will give way to the cabinet secretary for her alternative logic.
Shona Robison SNP
They are called facts, and the facts are that, according to independent commentators, including the Accounts Commission and the Scottish Parliament informati...
Craig Hoy Con
I understand that Specsavers now does hearing tests—the cabinet secretary should have gone to Specsavers, because she did not hear what the IFS said. It said...
Shona Robison SNP
Will the member give way?
Craig Hoy Con
I will give way again.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Cabinet secretary, briefly.
Shona Robison SNP
Just to again help Craig Hoy a little, that reference was to the spending review, not to the 2026-27 budget. He needs to understand the difference between a ...
Craig Hoy Con
The minister stood in the Parliament during the budget statement and said that there will be a 2 per cent real-terms increase to local government, but that i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
I call the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government to speak to and move amendment S6M-20654.2.16:10
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Shona Robison) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak and correct the misinformation in the Conservative motion. First, the budget improves the local government settlement with...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Always speak through the chair.
Craig Hoy Con
Earlier today, I spoke with COSLA, which, of course, is SNP-led, and I do not think that the Scottish Government should be lecturing anybody else on its rela...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
I can give you the time back, cabinet secretary.
Shona Robison SNP
We have provided a real-terms increase to local government and we have made sure that that funding is flexible. If Craig Hoy is suggesting that there should ...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
In 2007, a fresh-faced finance secretary by the name of John Swinney was entrusted with delivering the SNP’s election promise of scrapping the council tax. I...
Shona Robison SNP
Talking of change, I refer to our proposal to introduce new council tax bands for the very highest-value homes—those that are worth more than £1 million. Tha...
Michael Marra Lab
We certainly support the principle. However, given what I have just laid out, believing in the Government’s ability to deliver anything at all in this area i...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
I am not very surprised at my immediate feelings of frustration about how the debate is starting. There were some important and legitimate points that I agre...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I am much more optimistic than Patrick Harvie is about council tax reform and local government finance reform. I have sat through endless meetings in this bu...
Shona Robison SNP
Will Willie Rennie—
Willie Rennie LD
Just a minute. I have not got to the punchline yet. Laughter. There is a punchline.Then, there is a ministerial reshuffle, and the next innocent soul comes i...
Shona Robison SNP
In no spending review outlook do the figures stay the same from budget to budget. Let us look back to the projection for local government in the spending rev...
Willie Rennie LD
I accept that. However, from looking at the chart, it is very clear that the spending lines go up for health, education and many other departments. Local gov...
Shona Robison SNP
Will the member give way on that point?
Willie Rennie LD
I do not know whether I have the time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Not even for your punchline, Mr Rennie.
Willie Rennie LD
I wish that we would treat local government with a bit more respect. Let us give it a proper settlement to meet the demands that it faces and the expectation...