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Meeting of the Parliament 25 March 2026 [Draft]

25 Mar 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Mobile Phone Use in Schools (Ban)

I am pleased to contribute to the debate, and in doing so, I thank Pam Gosal for bringing the issue to the chamber, and I wish her well. Pam was one of the first MSPs I met when I was elected to this place; we were in the same little group on the first day. Her leadership of the cross-party group on India, of which I have been a deputy convener, has been very important in this Parliament, particularly to the wider Indian diaspora across our region and elsewhere.

Since coming into the education brief, I have been fairly consistent in saying that tackling the wider issues surrounding today’s debate, such as violence and disruption in our schools, must come first and foremost, because that will provide the foundation for everything else that goes on in the classroom and in the wider school environment.

Given that it is the last day of the parliamentary session and that we are about to enter an election period, colleagues will expect some politics from me. It is clear that the Government has failed to grip these issues during this session. Indeed, this weekend, a response to a freedom of information request from local authorities across Scotland showed that the number of reported incidents of pupil-on-teacher violence has more than doubled over this parliamentary session.

In my region, that means that in places such as Renfrewshire, things are spiralling somewhat out of control, with recorded incidents in primary schools increasing more than fivefold since 2022-23. Obviously, there are multifaceted reasons for that, and we need to understand those, but that is not an excuse for ignoring the very clear problems that surround the use of digital technology and what young people are being exposed to in online spaces. That is why my party was one of the first to call for a nationwide ban on mobile phones in the classroom. It is clearly part of a toolbox and a package of solutions to deal with those issues and give young people better opportunities and a better start to their school life.

Other actions need to sit alongside a ban, however; it would not, in isolation, be a silver bullet. That is why we have advocated for a national charter on behaviour and standards and national leadership on discipline in schools, to empower headteachers to set out consequences, look at the issue of community partners such as campus cops and restore the relationships that now do not exist in many local authorities. We have also advocated for improving workforce planning, so that support staff meet the needs of pupils, and for ensuring that schools have funding certainty, so that they can offer teachers and education staff permanent or long-term contracts, in order to address the scandal of qualified teachers being unable to work.

It is clear to me that a range of solutions are required in the next session of Parliament to make an impact on the problems that exist in relation to violence and behaviour. It is clear that any ban on phones will have to involve young people. They will have to help to co-design it and they will have to be at the heart of how we implement it—we should not forget that in the debate.

There are already myriad discussions about how we might do that. I know that the cabinet secretary will say that she feels that she does not have the power. Some advocate for a new piece of legislation, but I would advocate for looking at the legislation that we already have. There needs to be a wider discussion about powers that have not been used, such as those in the Education (Scotland) Act 2016, and the duties that we place on chief education officers in local authorities to implement and enforce certain things.

Given the day, I pay tribute to Audrey Nicoll, who has made her final speech of the parliamentary session. Her work with me and others across committees on drug deaths and drug harms was very important. I hope that we will all continue to focus on that in the next session of Parliament. She can be assured that her contribution in that space is very valued.

I also pay tribute to you, Deputy Presiding Officer. This is perhaps the last time that you will chair a debate in the chamber that I am involved in, and I wish you all the very best for what comes next.

I reflected, when speaking to you yesterday, on the fact that your dear mother was the first person to sit in that chair. It has always stuck with me that it must be so important to you that, over our five years in Parliament, you have been able to do the same thing. I am sure that many of us who watched the first day of proceedings in 1999 never thought that we would sit in the chamber and help to form the next part of the story of the Scottish Parliament.

I appreciate that I am now saying nice things to indulge you, Deputy Presiding Officer, so that I get a wee bit more time, but I am about to conclude. I leave the chamber with two important points. The politics over the next wee while will be fierce and intense, so I will quote two Johns—neither of them are who members might think, before we go there. They are two of my political heroes. One is John Hume, who said that when people are

“divided … the only solution is agreement.”

We need to find those solutions in the next session of Parliament, in particular in education.

The second is John Smith, who said:

“The opportunity to serve … is all we ask”.

That is all that we—those of us who are standing again—are asking, and I wish everyone well.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-20881, in the name of Pam Gosal, on a Scotland-wide ban on the use of mobile phones in ...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I am pleased to deliver one of the final members’ business debates of this parliamentary session on a very important subject. Before I start, I would like to...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful to the member for hosting the round-table event that she has described, which I attended. She is quite right to frame the issue in a public hea...
Pam Gosal Con
I absolutely agree, and the member will hear later in my speech that the Scottish Conservatives will introduce legislation to address that point in the next ...
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I thank Pam Gosal for securing this debate on a Scotland-wide ban on the use of mobile phones in schools, and I congratulate her on her powerful and comprehe...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank my friend and colleague Pam Gosal for securing the debate and for the work that she has carried out on domestic abuse during the five years that she ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to contribute to the debate, and in doing so, I thank Pam Gosal for bringing the issue to the chamber, and I wish her well. Pam was one of the f...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Thank you, Mr O’Kane, for your kind words.13:15
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
In following that fine contribution, I, too, pay tribute to Audrey Nicoll. I have always genuinely enjoyed listening to her contributions, especially given t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Hear, hear.
Willie Rennie LD
We have looked at the issue of mobile phones, and I have been clear about the damaging effects that I think that they have in the classroom. However, we need...
Pam Gosal Con
The member says that we should take our time, but the problems are happening right now and we need to act now. As I said in my speech, there is already so mu...
Willie Rennie LD
I do think we should do that, but this debate has been quite narrowly about mobile phones when I think that we need to look at all the digital tools that we ...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
This extremely important subject is more pressing than many of the things that we debate in Parliament, and I thank Pam Gosal for bringing it to the chamber....
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank my colleague Pam Gosal not only for bringing this important debate to the chamber, but for telling me what I need to speak about for the next four mi...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Who, on the Conservative benches, says that we cannot occasionally agree with Willie Rennie? I agree with him about the use of old technology—books. It would...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
I thank Pam Gosal for bringing this debate to Parliament and for sponsoring the recent round-table discussion on the topic, which I was pleased to attend, al...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I believe that the cabinet secretary has found common ground with the consensus that is emerging in this debate. However, does she recognise that an act of t...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I very much recognise Mr Cole-Hamilton’s point, which is reflective of a growing ask from Parliament for more national direction. We saw that only yesterday ...
Pam Gosal Con
I have been speaking to the councils in my West Scotland region, and one of the things that they asked for when I brought up the subject was clear direction—...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I remind the member to always speak through the chair.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I remind Pam Gosal that the foreword from me at the front of the national guidance document makes it very clear that any headteacher will have my backing as ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Cabinet secretary, I appreciate that you are trying to respond to everybody, but I am conscious of the next debate and of the fact that all the members are h...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I apologise. However, I want to pay tribute to you, too, for your service to the people of Cowdenbeath. Laughter. I shared Mr Rennie’s smile as you advocated...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
That concludes the debate. There will be a short pause before we move on to the next item of business.