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Meeting of the Parliament 25 March 2026 [Draft]

25 Mar 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Mobile Phone Use in Schools (Ban)
Nicoll, Audrey SNP Aberdeen South and North Kincardine Watch on SPTV

I thank Pam Gosal for securing this debate on a Scotland-wide ban on the use of mobile phones in schools, and I congratulate her on her powerful and comprehensive speech. As this will be my last speech before I step down, I hope that the Presiding Officer will afford me a few moments at the end of my speech to include some personal reflections on my time in the Parliament.

Undoubtedly, mobile phones bring huge benefits to the lives of children and young people: staying connected with friends and family, learning, socialising and just chilling out. Often, a family’s decision to introduce a phone involves a fine balance between the benefits and the concerns—and, perhaps, timing and costs. However, Ms Gosal’s motion reflects the concerns of many—parents, teachers, legislators, police officers and children—that overexposure to the use of mobile phones carries risks. I commend the work of many organisations to safeguard children in that space.

The harms and risks that flow from children’s mobile phone use can damage and, in some devastating cases, end lives. Those include unlimited screen time, exposure to inappropriate content and contact, bullying, peer pressure and group-based sexual abuse. In response, school bans, as part of a wider policy approach, have become more popular, with an ever-increasing number of countries introducing them. Others, such as Scotland, encourage schools to restrict and manage access.

However, at the moment, it is unclear whether bans are effective. Some consider that mobile phone use by children is so ubiquitous that bans in isolation are not enough to tackle the negative impacts. It seems that there is still some way to go to find a clear, evidence-based approach that safeguards children. I very much acknowledge the proposal by colleagues, including Pam Gosal, that it could involve legislative provision.

Another area of risk, which is often overlooked, is the exposure to extremist ideology that promotes violence, hatred and intolerance. The final years of my policing career were spent working in that space, supporting public sector organisations to understand their role in safeguarding children from exposure to extremist ideology.

As I prepare to leave the Parliament, I reflect that never in a million years did I foresee my role shifting from enforcing the law to making the law. What an utter privilege and an amazing experience it has been to be a member of our amazing Scottish Parliament. I thank a number of people for making it happen: my loving husband, Alex; my wonderful son, Sam; my parents, Bill and Jean; and my sister, Susan. I also thank Maureen Watt, who has been a mentor and friend throughout. I thank my brilliant constituency team, who went above and beyond to assist constituents who sought our help. I thank my wonderful committee clerks and the other Parliament colleagues who supported me through my five-year convenership of the Criminal Justice Committee. I thank my MSP colleagues and Parliament staff. Finally, to my constituents, I say thank you for the honour of representing you.

Having entered politics later in life, I have often found it hard to understand why we think fractious discourse and debate serve the people of Scotland. Next session, I want to observe a Parliament that rejects that approach and instead engages in strong and collegiate scrutiny of the Government as an effective legislature that prioritises improving lives, particularly the lives of our children, above soundbites and partisan deadlock. I also hope that, in the face of a turbulent new geopolitical era, we finally deliver independence for Scotland.

13:06

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-20881, in the name of Pam Gosal, on a Scotland-wide ban on the use of mobile phones in ...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I am pleased to deliver one of the final members’ business debates of this parliamentary session on a very important subject. Before I start, I would like to...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful to the member for hosting the round-table event that she has described, which I attended. She is quite right to frame the issue in a public hea...
Pam Gosal Con
I absolutely agree, and the member will hear later in my speech that the Scottish Conservatives will introduce legislation to address that point in the next ...
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I thank Pam Gosal for securing this debate on a Scotland-wide ban on the use of mobile phones in schools, and I congratulate her on her powerful and comprehe...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank my friend and colleague Pam Gosal for securing the debate and for the work that she has carried out on domestic abuse during the five years that she ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to contribute to the debate, and in doing so, I thank Pam Gosal for bringing the issue to the chamber, and I wish her well. Pam was one of the f...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Thank you, Mr O’Kane, for your kind words.13:15
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
In following that fine contribution, I, too, pay tribute to Audrey Nicoll. I have always genuinely enjoyed listening to her contributions, especially given t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Hear, hear.
Willie Rennie LD
We have looked at the issue of mobile phones, and I have been clear about the damaging effects that I think that they have in the classroom. However, we need...
Pam Gosal Con
The member says that we should take our time, but the problems are happening right now and we need to act now. As I said in my speech, there is already so mu...
Willie Rennie LD
I do think we should do that, but this debate has been quite narrowly about mobile phones when I think that we need to look at all the digital tools that we ...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
This extremely important subject is more pressing than many of the things that we debate in Parliament, and I thank Pam Gosal for bringing it to the chamber....
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank my colleague Pam Gosal not only for bringing this important debate to the chamber, but for telling me what I need to speak about for the next four mi...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Who, on the Conservative benches, says that we cannot occasionally agree with Willie Rennie? I agree with him about the use of old technology—books. It would...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
I thank Pam Gosal for bringing this debate to Parliament and for sponsoring the recent round-table discussion on the topic, which I was pleased to attend, al...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I believe that the cabinet secretary has found common ground with the consensus that is emerging in this debate. However, does she recognise that an act of t...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I very much recognise Mr Cole-Hamilton’s point, which is reflective of a growing ask from Parliament for more national direction. We saw that only yesterday ...
Pam Gosal Con
I have been speaking to the councils in my West Scotland region, and one of the things that they asked for when I brought up the subject was clear direction—...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I remind the member to always speak through the chair.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I remind Pam Gosal that the foreword from me at the front of the national guidance document makes it very clear that any headteacher will have my backing as ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Cabinet secretary, I appreciate that you are trying to respond to everybody, but I am conscious of the next debate and of the fact that all the members are h...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I apologise. However, I want to pay tribute to you, too, for your service to the people of Cowdenbeath. Laughter. I shared Mr Rennie’s smile as you advocated...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
That concludes the debate. There will be a short pause before we move on to the next item of business.