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Meeting of the Parliament 04 March 2026 [Draft]

04 Mar 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Banking Charges for Charities and Not-for-profit Organisations
Hepburn, Jamie SNP Cumbernauld and Kilsyth Watch on SPTV

I am not sure that I would have given way if I had known that the member’s intervention was going to be an advert for the Co-operative Party, but I take her point. Banking hubs have an enormous role to play, and I was very pleased to see that Kilsyth will be getting such a hub in due course.

I want to pick up on a point that has been made in the debate. Jackie Dunbar’s motion refers to the circumstances in 2008 when public funds were used on what was an unprecedented scale to stabilise the banking system. Taxpayers stepped in to protect financial institutions and the wider economy. On that basis, it is entirely reasonable to question whether it is appropriate for those same institutions to seek to recoup revenue from the very community organisations that hold our social fabric together and the very communities that funded the stabilisation of the banks almost two decades ago.

We should be looking for social return from the banks. Jackie Dunbar made the reasonable point that it should not be too much to ask that banks provide that form of social return. I agree with that, but I think, more fundamentally, that they should be told to provide it. We can cast it as a moral obligation, as Mercedes Villalba and Liam Kerr did in their exchange, but there are practical steps that can and should be considered. The UK Government has responsibility for banking regulation, and I believe that it should engage directly with banks—not to ask them, but to require them to provide protected, fee-free basic accounts for registered charities and small not-for-profit groups. The UK Government should ensure that conditions linked to past or on-going public shareholdings reflect the need for a social obligation on the part of banks.

In addition, the Financial Conduct Authority could review whether the cumulative impact of charges and branch closures—as has been mentioned—is creating barriers to fair access to essential banking services for the third sector, and it could consider producing guidance that recognises the distinct nature of micro-charities and volunteer-run groups. Those are practical steps that I believe should be taken. Community organisations should be enabled, not hindered, in their work, and they should be able to dedicate the funds that they raise to community benefit, not to the bolstering of bank profits.

17:58

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-19214, in the name of Jackie Dunbar, on banking charges for charities and not-for-prof...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
I thank every member who took the time to sign my motion in order to allow the debate to go ahead.“For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world ...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Jackie Dunbar for bringing the debate to the chamber, and I acknowledge the contributions of Danestone church, in particular, and Age Scotland, which...
Mercedes Villalba (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will Liam Kerr take an intervention?
Liam Kerr Con
I do not think that I have time for an intervention, unless—
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
I can give you the time back, Mr Kerr.
Liam Kerr Con
In that case, I would be delighted to take the intervention.
Mercedes Villalba Lab
I thank Liam Kerr for taking the intervention. I will make it brief.On the point about the banks having benefited from the bailout, does Liam Kerr agree that...
Liam Kerr Con
The point that is being made is that the public bailed out those banks, and I think that it is morally dubious for the banks then to charge that very same pu...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in support of the motion that Jackie Dunbar has lodged on an issue of importance to communities the length and breadth of Scotland. My ...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Will the member give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP
Yes, of course.
Claire Baker Lab
I just want to point out that, while I completely agree that we should be critical of the banks that apply these charges to local groups that do so much work...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
I can give you the time back, Mr Hepburn.
Jamie Hepburn SNP
I am not sure that I would have given way if I had known that the member’s intervention was going to be an advert for the Co-operative Party, but I take her ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Jackie Dunbar for lodging the motion and for the debate that has ensued. I enjoyed much of her speech—if she does not obtain ministry in the Parliame...
The Minister for Equalities (Kaukab Stewart) SNP
I thank all members who have contributed to this afternoon’s debate, especially Jackie Dunbar, who very passionately articulated the essence of her motion.Ac...