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Meeting of the Parliament 18 March 2026 [Draft]

18 Mar 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

My amendments 54 and 55 deal with pre-hearing meetings with the principal reporter. Pre-hearing meetings between the principal reporter, the cared-for child and their family do not currently take place in the children’s hearings system but will be a new procedure as set out in proposed new section 69A of the Children’s Hearings (Scotland) Act 2011. They have caused concern and confusion in the children’s hearings sector, and those concerns were raised at stages 1 and 2. However, I am not sure that the Scottish Government has answered those concerns from those who are at the coalface of the work.

Pre-hearing meetings are a good idea. They will allow the principal reporter to meet the child and their family outside the hearing room in a more relaxed and informal setting. The principal reporter will be able to explain the format of the hearing as well as who will be in the room and what support will be available to the child, such as advocacy or legal aid. The reporter will also be able to help to calm nerves and reassure families about what will happen during what can be a stressful time.

Although well intentioned, however, the meetings could create unforeseen problems. What if a child or a family member starts asking questions that would be better heard in a grounds hearing? What if the principal reporter accidentally strays from the brief and starts discussing details of the case or how it might proceed? There is also no clear indication of how such a meeting will be documented, recorded or used in any future hearing.

Although I and others see the benefits of such meetings, it is our duty as parliamentarians not to leave it to others but to ensure that there are clear standards and rules about the meetings in order to safeguard children and families and ensure that reporters clearly understand what can—and, more important, what cannot—be discussed outside the grounds hearing.

The bill refers to

“such other matters in relation to the children’s hearing or, as the case may be, the hearing before the sheriff as the Principal Reporter considers appropriate”.

I am concerned by the wording “considers appropriate”, which is too vague, open to interpretation and thus confusing. It is possibly overspill. I therefore brought back what is now amendment 54, as I believe that it would provide a safeguard for children, their families and the principal reporter and ensure that pre-hearing meetings are dealt with in the right way.

My amendment 55 simply proposes that the new regulations regarding pre-hearing meetings be subject to the affirmative procedure. That would allow Parliament to scrutinise and vote on them, ensuring that, when they come into force, members have had their say.

I intend to move both amendment 54 and amendment 55.

In the same item of business

15:19
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings on the Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill. In dealing with the amendment...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Group 1 is on aftercare. Amendment 91, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 6 to 8, 92, 93, 9, 96, 97, 13 to 15, 33, 209 and 88.
The Minister for Children, Young People and The Promise (Natalie Don-Innes) SNP
My amendments in group 1 all relate to the provision of aftercare and are needed to deliver quality care for young people in a transparent, organised and rig...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I put on record my thanks to the minister for the work that she has done with me and the rest of us on the amendments. I am going to speak only to my amendme...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I remind members in the chamber, and those who are watching, of my entry in the register of members’ interests.With regard to group 1, I echo Roz McCall’s th...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
I will make just a brief contribution on this group. At stage 2, I lodged a series of amendments to include estranged young people in various provisions of t...
Natalie Don-Innes SNP
I thank all members for their contributions to the debate on group 1, and I thank Ross Greer for raising the important issue of estrangement, which we discus...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The question is, that amendment 91 be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
There will be a division.As this is the first division of stage 3, I will suspend the meeting for around five minutes, to allow members to access the digital...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
We come to the vote on amendment 91, in the name of the minister. Members should cast their votes now.The vote is closed.
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I had trouble connecting. I would have voted no.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Thank you. I will ensure that that is recorded.
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Thank you, Ms Callaghan. We will ensure that that is recorded.
ForAdam, George (Paisley) (SNP)Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an I...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The result of the division is: For 92, Against 15, Abstentions 0.Amendment 91 agreed to.Amendments 6 to 8 moved—Natalie Don-Innes—and agreed to.Amendment 92 ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Group 2 is on provision of accommodation and continuing care. Amendment 99, in the name of Martin Whitfield, is grouped with amendments 100 to 102, 98, 103 t...
Martin Whitfield Lab
I have the privilege of having lodged all the amendments in the group, so I look forward to hearing comments from members around the chamber.There are essent...
Nicola Sturgeon (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) SNP
Amendments in this group relate to sections 2A, 2B, 2C and 2D of the bill, and, as Martin Whitfield has said, those sections reflect amendments in my name th...
Natalie Don-Innes SNP
I am grateful to Ms Sturgeon and Mr Whitfield for their engagement ahead of stage 3 on these sections of the bill.Every member wishes to protect children’s r...
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am very grateful for members’ contributions on the group and, indeed, for Nicola Sturgeon’s articulate description of not only the situation but the challe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Group 3 is on family group decision making. Amendment 10, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 94, 95, 79 to 83, 203 and 84.
Natalie Don-Innes SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak to amendment 10. I thank Children First, whose advocacy for children in respect of family group decision making has brough...
Willie Rennie LD
I thank the minister for her collaborative approach on this important issue. I also thank Children First for its very strong support in making sure that we g...
Martin Whitfield Lab
Will the member give way?
Willie Rennie LD
Certainly.
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am grateful to the member for taking an intervention. I merely want to articulate my thanks for the cross-party work with regard to this group, and to conf...
Willie Rennie LD
On that point, I will conclude. I urge members to support the amendments.
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak to amendment 79 and the other amendments in my name in this group, which relates to family group decision making. As the minister and W...