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Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
24 Mar 2026
Crofting and Scottish Land Court Bill: Stage 3
This is my last speech to Parliament as a member, after 10 years. As a back bencher and a front bencher, as a party leader and a committee convener, I have always tried to speak out not only for the labour and trade union movement who sent me here, but for all of those oppress...
Richard Leonard Lab Chamber
19 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Water Supply and Waste Water Treatment Services
Last month, a report commissioned by Unison into Scottish Water questioned the regulatory framework. It warned of creeping privatisation, the ripping up of trade union policies and procedures, the outsourcing not only of major capital works but of day-to-day operations, and th...
5. Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
19 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Water Supply and Waste Water Treatment Services
I remind members of my voluntary register of trade union interests. To ask the Scottish Government whether it is content with the governance, accountability and delivery of both Scotland’s water supply and waste water treatment services. (S6O-05676)
Richard Leonard Lab Chamber
19 Mar 2026
Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Question Time · Michael “Mick” McGahey Bust
I simply ask, while there is still time, that this appeal be included in the corporate body’s legacy report to the next session of the Parliament.
Richard Leonard Lab Chamber
19 Mar 2026
Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Question Time · Michael “Mick” McGahey Bust
It was wonderful to see the magnificent Ian Homer Walters bust on display for the centenary of Mick McGahey’s birth, but I express my dismay to see him replaced a few weeks ago by a white marble cube. Mick McGahey was a self-taught, working-class visionary and a catalyst who r...
5. Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
19 Mar 2026
Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Question Time · Michael “Mick” McGahey Bust
I remind members of my voluntary entry in the register of members’ interests. To ask the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body whether it will reinstate the bust of Michael “Mick” McGahey previously displayed in the garden lobby. (S6O-05643)
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
18 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Alexander Dennis Ltd (Support)
I remind members of my voluntary register of trade union interests.Can I pay tribute to Kate Forbes, who, in my view, has been a breath of fresh air as an active and interventionist cabinet secretary for the economy.Yesterday, another vehicle manufacturer in central Scotland, ...
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Thank you very much indeed. On that cheery note, I close the public part of this morning’s meeting.12:51Meeting continued in private until 13:00.
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
We have been up against the clock. I place on record my thanks to committee members for their discipline and co-operation. I understand that Dr Pathirana and his team have given evidence to the Finance and Public Administration Committee as well as the Public Audit Committee t...
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Keep it moving, Jamie.
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
In a newspaper article.
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
I invite the deputy convener, Jamie Greene, to put the final series of questions to you.
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
I invite Joe FitzPatrick to put some questions to you.
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Okay, well, we have that on the record. Thank you very much.
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Are you saying that it was not a factor at all? Is it erroneous to assert that that was one of the reasons?
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
It may have been a factor. It is not erroneous to suggest that it may have been a factor.
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Before we move on, I will take you back to the police scheme. In evidence that we took on 18 February, we were told that one factor that might have influenced your organisation in prioritising the police scheme was the fact that 87 per cent of all freedom of information reques...
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
We might get to that, but, in the interest of moving things along, I invite Graham Simpson to put some questions to you.
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
My final question is on your 17 February 2026 letter to Kenneth Gibson, convener of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. The annex to the letter discussed comparative rates of uptake and statements being issued and so on. In paragraph 5 of the annex, there was no m...
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
If I put my feet in the boots of a retired firefighter, I would find that zero per cent of them have been issued with remediable service statements.
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
You have mentioned the Finance and Public Administration Committee a couple of times. You had some correspondence with the convener of that committee, Kenny Gibson. In October last year, you said that your progress was “broadly comparable” with other schemes and that the agenc...
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Lesley Fraser alluded to the fact that her understanding is that your progress is broadly in line with that of agencies in England and Wales. However, the Auditor General said that, although it is not the only UK pension provider facing this situation, there was “optimism bias...
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Dr Pathirana, how do you respond to paragraph 23 of the Auditor General’s report, which I just read to Lesley Fraser?
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Okay, but we take advice from the Auditor General, and he has laid before us, as members of the Parliament, a section 22 report—bear in mind that it was published just six weeks ago, so it is a very current analysis—in which he says, in paragraph 23 of his conclusion:“I am con...
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
I am sure that the Auditor General understands that. Nonetheless, he thought it right to lay before the Parliament a section 22 report, because, as he described when he gave evidence to us on 18 February, it is about not just the individual pensioner interest but the public in...
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Okay, thank you. While you are on the microphone, director general, does the Scottish Government accept the findings, recommendations and conclusions in the Audit Scotland report?
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Lesley Fraser, I do not know whether you can help to clarify the relationship.
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
I will begin where you finished. For our benefit, what is the relationship between you and the Scottish Government—the director general corporate? Our understanding was that you are an executive agency of the Scottish Government and therefore do not have a sponsorship team fro...
The Convener Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”
Our principal agenda item is consideration of the section 22 report, “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”. From the SPPA, I welcome Dr Stephen Pathirana, the chief executive; Christopher Nairns, the chief operating officer; and Frances Graham, the chief t...
The Convener (Richard Leonard) Lab Committee
17 Mar 2026
Decision on Taking Business in Private
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 11th and final meeting in 2026 of the Public Audit Committee. Under agenda item 1, does the committee agree to take agenda items 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 in private?Members indicated agreement.
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Understood. Thank you very much for your time this morning, Alasdair Hay, Chris Brown, Don McGillivray, and director general Neil Rennick. I particularly thank you, chief constable, and deputy chief constable, for the time and the undertakings that you have given us this morni...
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
That might be a question that, I presume, the Scottish Police Authority would also have some thoughts on.We have come to the end of our time. I thank you for the evidence that you have given us this morning. This is the second-last meeting in public of this parliamentary sessi...
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
A very short final question.
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
That leads us neatly on to the final series of questions, which will be put to you by the deputy convener, Jamie Greene.
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Absolutely—they are contained centrally in the report that is before us. They have been identified by HM inspectorate and the Auditor General.Colin Beattie has some questions.
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Thank you very much. Before I bring in Graham Simpson, I note that you mentioned capital constraints. At, I think, paragraph 24, the report points out that the move from local authority-controlled policing to a single Scotland-wide force—that was a policy decision; it was not ...
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Okay. Thank you. Would the chief constable or deputy chief constable like to comment on that?
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Okay. Mr Brown or Mr Hay—do you want to comment on where we are with the IT investments?
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Thank you very much for answering our questions on that incident. That is not why you are here, but it is of extreme public interest, so we wanted to cover some of that ground.If I may, I will take you back to the report on best value in policing and a matter that is perhaps f...
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
On this theme, finally, the deputy convener has some questions.
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Thank you. Graham Simpson has a question or two in this area, so I will bring him in at this juncture.
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
You pointed out the silence from the two clubs that were involved in that match. Do you think that the football authorities in Scotland are doing enough to hold the football clubs to account? How does that compare with England, for example, or other Union of European Football ...
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
We heard in your opening statement, chief constable, about changes in the nature of crime and how you have to gear up accordingly. However, what was witnessed on Sunday was a good old-fashioned football pitch invasion, followed by violent conduct and disorderly and threatening...
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Before we get into the detail of the report, we want to speak about some more contemporaneous issues, as you are in front of a parliamentary committee. I should begin by declaring my interest as the convener of the Professional Footballers Association Scotland parliamentary in...
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Chief constable, over to you.
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Mr Rennick, does the Scottish Government accept the findings and recommendations of this report?
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Thank you. I ask each of you in turn to say whether you accept the findings and recommendations of the best value report. Mr Hay, you said in your opening remarks that you accept them. I do not know whether you want to confirm that.
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
Over to you, chief constable.
The Convener Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
The substantive agenda item this morning is further consideration of the report “Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”, which we took evidence on from the Auditor General and His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary in Scotland on 11 Februar...
The Convener (Richard Leonard) Lab Committee
11 Mar 2026
Decision on Taking Business in Private
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 10th meeting in 2026 of the Public Audit Committee. We have received apologies from Joe FitzPatrick.Agenda item 1 is for members to consider whether to take items 3 to 5 in private. Do we agree to take those items in private?Members indi...
Richard Leonard Lab Chamber
04 Mar 2026
Ferries
That sounds a bit more like some of the old ideology that I was referring to earlier on.Finally, let me turn to the Labour amendment, which highlights that there is a democratic deficit here. It is not just about seats on boards; I have never believed that nationalisation plus...
Richard Leonard Lab Chamber
04 Mar 2026
Ferries
If I have time.
Richard Leonard Lab Chamber
04 Mar 2026
Ferries
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. Let me return to this point: because of persistent pressure from this Parliament’s Public Audit Committee, the Government has been required to bring in the accountants Grant Thornton to conduct a forensic audit to track down exactly wher...
Richard Leonard Lab Chamber
04 Mar 2026
Ferries
In fact, because of persistent pressure from this Parliament’s Public Audit Committee, the Government has been required to bring in the accountants—Interruption.
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Mar 2026
Ferries
I remind members of my voluntary register of trade union interests.It never ceases to amaze me that something just as distinctively and as quintessentially Scottish as our islands and the ferry links to them, which are a social and economic necessity, have been treated so badl...
Richard Leonard Lab Chamber
04 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · NHS Agenda for Change Staff (Working Week)
When half an hour was supposed to be reduced from the working week on 1 April 2024, it was only partially implemented. When half an hour was supposed to be reduced from the working week on 1 April 2025, it was pulled. Now, on 1 April 2026, a full hour is supposed to be reduced...
6. Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Mar 2026
Portfolio Question Time · NHS Agenda for Change Staff (Working Week)
I remind the chamber of my voluntary entry of trade union interests. To ask the Scottish Government whether it is confident that the changes to the working week for national health service agenda for change staff will be fully implemented by 1 April 2026. (S6O-05592)
The Convener Lab Committee
04 Mar 2026
“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”
On that note of harmony, I will bring this morning’s session to a close. I thank Caroline Lamb, Christine McLaughlin and Fiona Bennett for their evidence this morning. I note that you are going to get back to us with more information about some things.As this is our final sess...
The Convener Lab Committee
04 Mar 2026
“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”
I have had an indication that Joe FitzPatrick is going to try our patience and ask a final question.
The Convener Lab Committee
04 Mar 2026
“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”
That is fine. Jamie Greene has a final question.
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Public Audit Committee 11 March 2026 [Draft]

11 Mar 2026 · S6 · Public Audit Committee
Item of business
“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”
We heard in your opening statement, chief constable, about changes in the nature of crime and how you have to gear up accordingly. However, what was witnessed on Sunday was a good old-fashioned football pitch invasion, followed by violent conduct and disorderly and threatening conduct, including—as the PFA has pointed out—such conduct towards players and coaching staff, for whom that was their place of work. What is your observation on that, and what action are you taking?

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The Convener Lab
The substantive agenda item this morning is further consideration of the report “Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”, whi...
Neil Rennick (Scottish Government)
Thank you, convener. I will be brief. I am grateful to Audit Scotland and His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary for the report.The report is a positive ...
Alasdair Hay (Scottish Police Authority)
Thank you for the opportunity to give evidence. I have been a member of the Scottish Police Authority since 2021. I am the vice-chair of the authority and th...
The Convener Lab
Over to you, chief constable.
Chief Constable Jo Farrell KPM (Police Scotland)
Good morning. The principles of best value resonate powerfully with me. I believe deeply in the value that policing provides to the public and to the public ...
The Convener Lab
Thank you. I ask each of you in turn to say whether you accept the findings and recommendations of the best value report. Mr Hay, you said in your opening re...
Alasdair Hay
The authority accepts the findings and recommendations in full. We have already made progress on putting in place an action plan to respond to them, which wi...
The Convener Lab
Mr Rennick, does the Scottish Government accept the findings and recommendations of this report?
Neil Rennick
Yes, we do. We are committed to working with Police Scotland and the Scottish Police Authority in taking forward the full range of recommendations.
The Convener Lab
Chief constable, over to you.
Chief Constable Farrell
Yes, we do. We have already begun the work to address the issues that are raised in the audit.
The Convener Lab
Before we get into the detail of the report, we want to speak about some more contemporaneous issues, as you are in front of a parliamentary committee. I sho...
Chief Constable Farrell
Within all our operational duties and commitments, obligations around human rights feature in planning, preparation and the deployment of resources, both to ...
The Convener Lab
We heard in your opening statement, chief constable, about changes in the nature of crime and how you have to gear up accordingly. However, what was witnesse...
Chief Constable Farrell
The events of Sunday afternoon were absolutely disgraceful. I condemn the people involved in violence. Fans, families, friends, people working at the clubs a...
The Convener Lab
You pointed out the silence from the two clubs that were involved in that match. Do you think that the football authorities in Scotland are doing enough to h...
Chief Constable Farrell
There are high-risk football matches across the United Kingdom. When I worked in north-east England, I worked at Newcastle v Sunderland and Sunderland v Newc...
The Convener Lab
Thank you. Graham Simpson has a question or two in this area, so I will bring him in at this juncture.
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Reform) Reform
Thanks, convener. I also used to live in the north-east of England and I have attended Newcastle v Sunderland matches. I have also attended many old firm gam...
Chief Constable Farrell
I have not spoken to either club. As of Monday evening, the clubs had not said anything in relation to the events of Sunday afternoon. They might have done s...
Deputy Chief Constable Alan Speirs (Police Scotland)
There will be engagement with the commanders for the football. We have policed football matches in Scotland for many, many years, and there are two elements ...
Graham Simpson Reform
Were people assaulted outside the ground both before and after the game, or was it just before the game?
Deputy Chief Constable Speirs
There was a dreadful, serious assault outside the stadium involving spectators who were attending the match. Fortunately, some of our technology captured tha...
Graham Simpson Reform
One of the videos that has been widely seen was of supporters charging into the ground through a disabled access point, barging stewards out of the way. I ho...
Deputy Chief Constable Speirs
The stewarding of the match and spectator access to the match are stewarding matters. Looking at the circumstances, the turnstiles were rushed and a large pr...
Graham Simpson Reform
In that case, it did not look as though there were turnstiles. It must have been a door that was open or a gate.
Chief Constable Farrell
I think it was a fire door—I think.
Graham Simpson Reform
Okay. I turn to the events following the penalty shoot-out, when both sets of fans were on the pitch. I was not there; I was watching it on the telly, and it...
Chief Constable Farrell
That would seem to be an obvious action that needs to be considered and taken by the clubs. It is about how they ensure the safety of their broader fan base ...