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The Convener SNP

Our next item of business is an oral evidence session on a draft affirmative instrument. We are joined by the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs,...

The Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs (Angela Constance) SNP

Thank you, and good morning. I begin by placing on record my gratitude and appreciation to Scottish Prison Service staff, justice social work services and ot...

The Convener SNP

Thank you, cabinet secretary. I will open the questions. I am not sure that any of us wants to be in this situation today of again looking at a reduction in ...

Angela Constance SNP

With the STP40 programme, which, for clarity, was under the Prisoners (Early Release) (Scotland) Act 2025, the anticipation was that it would reduce the popu...

The Convener SNP

Linda Pollock, do you want to come in on that, from the Prison Service point of view?

Linda Pollock (Scottish Prison Service)

We all know that the prison population is very difficult and is stubbornly high. As the cabinet secretary said, without STP40 and the emergency releases, the...

The Convener SNP

I have one more question, cabinet secretary. You spoke about a requirement for long-term change in our general approach and you referenced the recent report ...

Angela Constance SNP

Members will recall the statement that I gave to Parliament a few weeks ago. That was the Scottish Government’s initial response to what is a comprehensive a...

The Convener SNP

Thank you.

Liam Kerr Con

Cabinet secretary, you said that the scheme could reduce the prison population by between 239 and 312 people once it is fully implemented, but numerous previ...

Angela Constance SNP

I remind Mr Kerr that I have always been utterly candid about the impact of each and every measure that we have undertaken. We have undertaken two early emer...

Liam Kerr Con

The reoffending rate is currently about 44 per cent. What impact does your data—which has presumably been collated—suggest that the move will have on the reo...

Angela Constance SNP

When I gave the original statement, I made a political commitment in response to a question from the convener that we would, in due course, review STP30 if t...

Linda Pollock

It was 61.

Angela Constance SNP

Yes, it was 61. The return to custody rate for the STP40 programme was 5 per cent, which equated to 12 or 13 individuals.I appreciate that the return to cust...

Liam Kerr Con

I quoted the 44 per cent reoffending rate.

Angela Constance SNP

For which group?

Liam Kerr Con

If I may, cabinet secretary, I would like to ask you about that reoffending rate rather than the return to custody rate—to be fair, you are right to concede ...

Angela Constance SNP

I do not think that we have that information. There is a plethora of statistics on reoffending, which relate broadly to short-term and long-term prisoners. T...

Claire Martin (Scottish Government)

As the cabinet secretary said, we have the return to custody rate for the initial releases under the 2025 act. However, we do not have a reoffending rate spe...

Liam Kerr Con

Thank you. I have a quick final question. Cabinet secretary, will you confirm for the record that there is no governor’s veto in the scheme? Therefore, no ma...

Angela Constance SNP

There is no governor’s veto in this scheme, in the same way as there was no governor’s veto in the STP40 programme. The reason for that is that a governor’s ...

The Convener SNP

I ask for succinct questions and responses, so that all members are able to ask questions.

Jamie Hepburn SNP

You mentioned the two new prisons that are being constructed. Are you able to confirm that those are still on schedule?

Angela Constance SNP

Yes. HMP Highland is on track for the building work to be completed later this year, and the construction of HMP Glasgow is continuing as planned.

Jamie Hepburn SNP

I think that you said that that will provide 460 additional spaces.

Angela Constance SNP

Yes, that is correct.

Jamie Hepburn SNP

I have a question that relates to annex A of the helpful letter that you sent to us, which gives a breakdown by year of the number of people who receive shor...

Angela Constance SNP

As is the case in other parts of the UK and Europe, we are contending with a rising prison population. The presumption against sentences of less than a year ...

Jamie Hepburn SNP

I will not give the precise figures but, basically, from 2022-23 to 2023-24, the numbers being sentenced were up, which goes against the grain of there being...