Committee
Criminal Justice Committee 04 March 2026 [Draft]
04 Mar 2026 · S6 · Criminal Justice Committee
Item of business
Budget 2026-27 and Scottish Spending Review
Chief Constable Farrell
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Yes, I recognise that as a challenge. From speaking to officers, I know that the desire to stay with the person is driven by two things: genuine empathy with the person who is in crisis, and wanting to do the right thing; and then, in varying degrees—David Threadgold will have spoken about this—a fear of the consequences, because, if that person then leaves the hospital and some harm comes to them, as the committee knows, we are bound, for those incidents, to be investigated by the Police Investigations and Review Commission. That is quite a strong cultural grip on the organisation, and, on an individual officer level, I understand that.David Threadgold and I have spoken about this in the past week or so, and I think that you heard him say that we and I need to give front-line sergeants and inspectors the confidence and the tools to raise our risk appetite and then to use the tools that are available to us—we have a decision-making model that we use in all sorts of scenarios—to say that, based on those criteria, officers could leave. We are heading towards the complete roll-out of body-worn video in May. That will be a powerful tool in giving officers support and confidence. For example, I might take a short video of you and say, “Mr Hepburn, I’m going to leave you here. We’re in A and E. You’re going to be seen in due course. There will probably be a wait.” We will be able to use that as one of the levers to give our sergeants and inspectors the right support to say, “We’re going to leave you. You’re in a place of safety. It’s an A and E department. You’re not here under arrest. We need to move on to other duties.”
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09:02
The Convener
SNP
Our next item of business is an evidence-taking session by way of reflecting on the budget proposed for 2026-27 and the Scottish spending review. This mornin...
Chief Constable Jo Farrell (Police Scotland)
Good morning, and thank you for the invitation to provide some reflections on the budget and the spending review. Throughout our evidence to inform the commi...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you very much. We will move straight into questions.I will first pick up on a point that you made in your opening remarks about the challenges relating...
Chief Constable Farrell
I will kick off on that question, and I will then ask DCC Speirs to discuss some of the specific detail.In my opening remarks, I talked strongly in relation ...
The Convener
SNP
On that point, would there be any value in revisiting the wellbeing duty that is set out in the 2012 act, and could that potentially lead to a freeing up of ...
Chief Constable Farrell
I am very cognisant of the legislation. Somebody might tell me different, but I do not think that the word “wellbeing”, as it is used in the legislation, has...
Deputy Chief Constable Alan Speirs (Police Scotland)
We recognise that there will always be a small number of incidents in which police attendance and support is critical because people are in extreme crisis. A...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
SNP
In this area, the focus understandably tends to be on the capacity of the health service to accommodate those who are brought into the hospital environment. ...
Chief Constable Farrell
Yes, I recognise that as a challenge. From speaking to officers, I know that the desire to stay with the person is driven by two things: genuine empathy with...
Jamie Hepburn
SNP
I would have—
The Convener
SNP
We must move on, Jamie. I will bring in Sharon Dowey and we might come back to your question if we have time, although we have limited time. I ask for questi...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con)
Con
I will try to be quick.DCC Speirs, you said that you are looking at ways of freeing up officers earlier in the process but, in many instances, the police sho...
Deputy Chief Constable Speirs
Over the past couple of years, it has felt as if we have been the driving force in attempts to make inroads into the handling of mental health calls. There i...
The Convener
SNP
Rona Mackay can come in briefly.
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
SNP
Good morning. How does your new strategy, for want of a better word, translate to small communities such as villages and rural communities? Would you still o...
Deputy Chief Constable Speirs
We use the THRIVE—threat, harm, risk, investigation, vulnerability, engagement—assessment in our service centres and that will never change. We will always l...
Chief Constable Farrell
Sixty per cent of the calls that come in in this space involve an individual or family member requesting help from us. When we look at that data, we would al...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con)
Con
Good morning. Chief constable, you told the committee—your written submission reiterates this—that you required a minimum uplift of £104.9 million simply to ...
Chief Constable Farrell
We have spent considerable time working through where we can take costs out of the budget in order to maintain officer numbers. You have heard me speak many ...
Liam Kerr
Con
The related question is that the Scottish Police Authority budget for 2026-27 includes £86.3 million of capital funding, but you requested £93.9 million. You...
Chief Constable Farrell
DCC Speirs will pick that up, then Sarah Roughead will probably also want to come in.
Deputy Chief Constable Speirs
You have begun to focus on where part of the answer lies by using that example. A big proportion of our capital spend is on data and digital systems. Over th...
Sarah Roughead (Police Scotland)
Just to add to that answer, most of our capital spend is across the estate, the fleet and the digital transformation that DCC Speirs mentioned. We have a fiv...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
Good morning. I want to ask the chief constable about community policing, but I will first ask Sarah Roughead whether she can clarify something about the bud...
Sarah Roughead
We received the funding for the presidential and vice-presidential visits in the current year, 2025-26. We recorded that separately to our main budget alloca...
Pauline McNeill
Lab
So, the £90.3 million does not include the £30.4 million?
Sarah Roughead
It does not.
Pauline McNeill
Lab
That is a relief.
Sarah Roughead
For other major events, again, we expect no detriment to policing. In our view, that £90.3 million does not cover, for example, the Commonwealth games. We ar...