Committee
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee 03 March 2026 [Draft]
03 Mar 2026 · S6 · Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Item of business
“Sign LOUD: Perspectives of Deaf mothers and signing practitioners on domestic abuse, communication issues and the impact on Deaf families”
Dr Claire Houghton (University of Edinburgh)
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I just want to talk a little bit about what deaf women have told us about being mothers. They were particularly worried about the unique impact of domestic abuse on their children, which we felt was a hidden finding, and that was true of deaf children and children of deaf adults. Our research uncovered a heartbreaking dynamic in deaf households where hearing children of deaf mothers often hear the abuse coming but their mothers might not hear doors slamming, glasses smashing or threats being shouted. They live in auditory world of trauma that their mother cannot access.Conversely, deaf children are hypersensitive to visual threats and body language. We heard that mainstream support workers did not have the training to communicate with the mothers or the children, or to understand specific sensory triggers. Furthermore, perpetrators of domestic abuse unfortunately use unique tactics to exploit that and to exploit their command of English if they are a hearing perpetrator, which means that deaf women feel invisible at key moments in their children’s lives because of barriers to communication and bias.Deaf women particularly fear the statutory response. We know that hearing victims/survivors also fear that response, but it was felt most acutely by deaf mothers, partly because of the fear of bias around whether they are seen as being good enough mothers already because of the stigma around being deaf. There is a history of abuse of the deaf community by statutory agencies in Scotland, and there is also the fear of child removal, which happened to one of the mothers and to others that we heard about from the workers.We heard about deaf women and how strong they are, but we felt that the system is stripping away the agency by failing to provide communication support. That is acutely felt in relation to one of our main findings, which was that the child was being used as an interpreter or a child language broker. We feel that it is fundamentally unacceptable, as did the women involved, that hearing children are still being asked to interpret for their mothers. We heard that with regards to every agency, but particularly in terms of police call-outs, welfare checks or court welfare proceedings. People were coming to the home and speaking to the child and not the mother, as we heard when the mothers met the Deputy First Minister. One mother talked about how she was in the kitchen while the child was speaking to the social worker in the living room. Women feel that they are not able to protect, support or care for their child. Furthermore, they are not even informed about what is going on, so the child is missing that support.It also forces the child to vocalise the abuse that they are witnessing and experiencing in the family. It can reverse the parenting role. These women are very strong parents but it adds immense emotional strain on both mother and child. Mothers felt that they could not be a strong protector if they had to rely on a traumatised child to speak for them. Therefore, one of the recommendations, which we can talk to you about, is that we need a guarantee that professional interpreters must be standard for those families and the child should never be the voice of the family’s crisis and trauma.Lastly, in terms of mothers and children, we heard—and this resonates with your excellent work on the 2015 act—about the importance of BSL from an early age not only for deaf children but for CODAs. As a hearing person, I was not aware of the fact that some mothers and children could not actually communicate. Communicating about domestic abuse is really difficult anyway, as I know, having worked with children for 30 years. It is already really difficult for mothers and children to communicate about domestic abuse. Now imagine if a child is not eloquent in BSL.We found that, where there is a shared language, it really strengthens mother-child bonds and centres a sense of safety and connection, so we need to improve in that area. There is a lack of deaf-specific resources in programmes on communicating with children. We have some really good pilots in Scotland for hearing mothers and children, as well as group work programmes and one-to-ones. We need to be able to supply that to deaf families and help them to improve their communication. I will hand over to Lucy to finish for us.
In the same item of business
09:30
The Convener
SNP
Our second agenda item is a consideration of the findings of a joint research report on the perspectives of deaf mothers and signing practitioners on domesti...
Professor Jemina Napier (Heriot-Watt University)
(simultaneous interpretation from British Sign Language) I will start in sign language, because of my respect for Lucy as the deaf author and for the deaf wo...
Lucy Clark (LCC Scotland)
(simultaneous interpretation from British Sign Language) Our research focused on deaf parents. We found that their experience of emotional and physical abuse...
Professor Napier
Just to continue on that thread, the deaf women told us that they were experiencing in effect a double trauma because they have a lack of access to informati...
Dr Claire Houghton (University of Edinburgh)
I just want to talk a little bit about what deaf women have told us about being mothers. They were particularly worried about the unique impact of domestic a...
Lucy Clark
(simultaneous interpretation from British Sign Language) I really appreciate the Deputy First Minister mentioning how she was inspired by our recommendations...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you all very much. We will move on to questions. Jemina, you touched on this in your opening statement. Given the shortage of interpreters, what specif...
Professor Napier
That is an excellent question. It is a question that we have been battling with for some time in relation to access to public services in general. When we lo...
The Convener
SNP
I realise that you might not have the information to hand, but is the lack of interpreters due to the density of the population being in the central belt or ...
Professor Napier
It is actually a bit of both. We know that more deaf people live in the central belt than in other parts of Scotland. Heriot-Watt University has a four-year ...
The Convener
SNP
We move to questions from Maggie Chapman.
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green)
Green
Good morning, and thank you for being with us today.I will pick up on a couple of points. Professor Napier, you spoke in your opening remarks about the Deaf ...
Professor Napier
That is a good question. I will begin before handing over to Lucy Clark, who has had a lot more involvement with that service.The Deaf Links and Women’s Aid ...
Lucy Clark
(simultaneous interpretation from British Sign Language) What we have to bear in mind is that deaf mothers come from a variety of backgrounds—from grass-root...
Maggie Chapman
Green
:You have talked about a victim/survivor perhaps being reticent about trusting or relying on a service because of past experience, and about the value of hav...
Lucy Clark
(simultaneous interpretation from British Sign Language) It is all about increasing BSL resources. It would be beneficial if each service received deaf aware...
Maggie Chapman
Green
:Thank you. That was really helpful. As somebody who previously worked in the Rape Crisis network, I know that we never talked about BSL or deaf culture. It ...
Dr Houghton
It is an important part of this, but it is really just one part. Mothers said that they received very little help in supporting their children through domest...
Maggie Chapman
Green
:The committee will reflect on your point about what we can do about families, whether it is the mother or the child, not trusting somebody else enough to te...
Lucy Clark
(simultaneous interpretation from British Sign Language)We also have to think carefully about the next generations. We need to include BSL in education right...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you for that, Lucy. Some of the most disturbing evidence that you have presented relates to children being used as interpreters. When the police arrive...
Lucy Clark
(simultaneous interpretation from British Sign Language) I could not agree more.
The Convener
SNP
We will now move on to questions from Paul McLennan.
Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP)
SNP
A lack of understanding of rights and consent is a risk factor for deaf women, and Lucy Clark has touched on the need for early education and awareness raisi...
Lucy Clark
(simultaneous interpretation from British Sign Language) I am sorry—a little bit more about what?
Paul McLennan
SNP
:A bit more about early education and awareness raising, particularly on the consent issue, because I think that that is really important.
Lucy Clark
(simultaneous interpretation from British Sign Language) I was surprised when I went to a workshop for the definiTAY project in Dundee, because all the women...
Paul McLennan
SNP
:What is the best way to tackle that situation? Is it through schools and through early education for women? Is it through organisations such as Deaf Action?...
Lucy Clark
(simultaneous interpretation from British Sign Language) I come back to our earlier point about the need for more deaf IDAAs, more deaf trainers, and more de...