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Meeting of the Parliament 26 February 2026 [Draft]

26 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Substance Misuse in Prisons
Marra, Michael Lab North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests: I am a former deputy director of the Leverhulme research centre for forensic science at the University of Dundee, which submitted evidence to the inquiry and is represented in the report.

I pay tribute to the work of my former colleagues. Since 2019, they have worked with the Scottish Prison Service to help us to understand the nature of the substances that are being consumed in our prison estate and some of the methods of delivery. In working with those members of staff—I certainly do not have the chemical expertise to do the analysis myself—I was always struck by the ingenuity of some of the prison population in getting those materials into the prison estate, and we have heard about that from various members in the debate.

Pauline McNeill raised a good point when she said that the public struggle to understand how it is possible to have drugs and alcohol at such levels in the prison estate. The report does us a service in beginning to build that public and policy understanding about how to deal with those issues.

The prison estate is no panopticon, as theorised by Michel Foucault—the cruel and ingenious cage of an idealised prison that presents and creates docile beings. The prison estate is a world away from that. The policing of the prison estate involves continuous conflict with the people in it who are trying to access substances—it is a constant battle. Elena Whitham made the point very well that any technological approach must sit alongside a relationship-based stewardship of our prison estate. We cannot just solve these problems, even though, as Mark Griffin highlighted, there are technologies that can be put in place. We must recognise that there will be a duality to the approach, which is absolutely key.

I was struck by some of the responses about purposeful activity. It is clear that the conditions of imprisonment are what people are attempting to escape from, in the less literal sense. They are trying to absent themselves from the mental drudgery and torture in their daily lives. People—typically, it is young men—who are in prison want to learn skills. Many of them want to learn to be joiners or brickies and think that they might have a better life for themselves and their family outside the prison door.

Audrey Nicoll talked about third sector organisations. I gently say to her that we are at a time when integration joint boards are being gutted by the Government—absolutely gutted. The third sector relies on our integration joint boards across Scotland, but we should recognise the severe cuts across the north-east, and particularly in Dundee.

Sharon Dowey and Mark Griffin touched on the issue of first-time addicts in the prison estate. The thought that people are going into prison and becoming addicts is horrific to the public, but we know that that happens, for the reasons that I have set out. We also know that, as a result, when people exit the prison gate, they are far more at risk of overdose because of the potency and availability of drugs in the outside world. We must make sure that, in dealing with our national drug deaths crisis, which is a source of huge shame and regret for the country and for the Government, we deal with those things directly and appropriately.

That touches on the issue of dual diagnosis and how our public services deal with mental health and addiction issues. In the conclusions of the Dundee drugs commission, which I was involved with, the issue of dual diagnosis was presented. That was many years ago, but it remains a massive problem in our locality in relation to how professionals recognise that people have dual issues and which services they need to access.

All those problems are exacerbated by a prison policy that has descended into chaos under this Government.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20875, in the name of Audrey Nicoll, on behalf of the Criminal Justice Committee, on its substance misuse...
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I am very proud to open the debate on the Criminal Justice Committee’s report into the harm caused by substance misuse in Scotland’s prisons. I thank our exc...
Angela Constance (Almond Valley) (SNP) SNP
I give my thanks to Audrey Nicoll in her capacity as convener of the Criminal Justice Committee. I will start by echoing the committee’s conclusion that a pu...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Scotland’s prison estate does not need to seek its troubles. Inmate numbers are at record levels, staff are reporting unprecedented challenges and prisoners ...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
The committee launched its inquiry because repeated investigations, powerful testimony from families and staff, and the findings of the people’s panel all sh...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I begin by thanking the Criminal Justice Committee for its work on this inquiry. The evidence that it heard and included in the report is sobering, urgent an...
Elena Whitham (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the Criminal Justice Committee’s report on substance use in Scotland’s prisons and thank the committee members for their care in ensuring that live...
Audrey Nicoll SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I am afraid that the member is concluding.
Elena Whitham SNP
If we want safer communities, fewer deaths and lower reoffending, we must ensure that our prisons are places where recovery is supported, dignity is upheld a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I remind all members who wish to speak in the debate to ensure that they have, in fact, pressed their request-to-speak button.16:20
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is clear from reading the findings of the Criminal Justice Committee’s inquiry into the harm caused by substance misuse in Scottish prisons that the issue...
Audrey Nicoll SNP
The point about purposeful activity has been raised by, probably, all speakers in the debate. Over the years, I have had the privilege of visiting HMP Grampi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I will give you the time back for the intervention, Mr Griffin.
Mark Griffin Lab
Thank you. I appreciate the points that Audrey Nicoll has made. However, the point that prison management made to me was that those issues were down to overc...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
The Criminal Justice Committee’s inquiry into substance abuse in prisons was at times harrowing, often emotional when the committee met affected prisoners an...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
We move to closing speeches. I call Maggie Chapman to close on behalf of the Scottish Greens.16:30
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
The debate has reinforced something that many of us already knew: substance misuse in prison is not incidental; it is endemic and, as Elena Whitham highlight...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests: I am a former deputy director of the Leverhulme research centre for forensic science at th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I call Sue Webber to close on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives.16:39
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer—I thought that you had forgotten about me.Under the SNP, Scotland’s prisons have become warehouses for addiction. The committee’...
Angela Constance SNP
Will Ms Webber give way?
Sue Webber Con
If Ms Constance does not mind, I will not. I am a last-minute addition to the speakers list. Perhaps I will give way as I get through my speech; I am only fo...
Maree Todd (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
Tapadh leibh, Oifigeir Riaghlaidh. I thank all committee members for their contributions to the debate. Drug and alcohol use in prison is a public health cha...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
I call Liam Kerr to wind up the debate on behalf of the Criminal Justice Committee.16:49
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
A key function of the committee system in a unicameral Parliament is to be independent of Government and party. At the outset, it is important to put on reco...
The Presiding Officer NPA
That concludes the debate on the substance misuse in prisons inquiry, on behalf of the Criminal Justice Committee. I will allow a moment or two for members o...