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Meeting of the Parliament 26 February 2026 [Draft]

26 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Childcare Support for Parents
Eagle, Tim Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I, too, congratulate Roz McCall on securing the debate. It is interesting to hear, from across the chamber, about situations that I found myself in years ago. I am lucky in having three children, the youngest of whom is now 10, so the immediate, early years of childcare have gone; I am now just a waiter to my youngest, who, as he watches TV in the morning, looks at me and asks what sort of continental breakfast I will provide. [Laughter.] That is what he wants. However, I remember those early days.

I do not think that my wife and I really thought about it. We decided to have children, looked out a pram, a cot and everything else, then suddenly thought, “Hang on a minute, what do we do with this child when we go to work?” That child needed us. They do not need me so much any more, but they were following me to the toilet every day—to wherever I went. Suddenly, we needed to know, “Where am I going with this child?” I had not thought about it.

It might have been naivety on the part of my wife and me, but not until that point did we realise—suddenly—the importance of childcare. That is why I agree with a lot of the points that were made by Gillian Mackay, Meghan Gallacher and Davy Russell. Childcare is so important. We no longer live in an age in which one parent can stay at home all the time. By the way, it is important that, if a family wants to do that, the Government should try to facilitate it, because looking after children is incredibly important. However, childcare is incredibly important, too.

I was privileged to chair the children and young people’s services committee in Moray Council when the early learning and childcare extension came in. I give credit to the Government for that, because it was a really good thing to do. We in Moray Council tried our best to make sure that local authority providers as well as private providers had the capacity to deliver across the area.

Unfortunately, however, it did not work. Although great stuff is now going on in Moray, there are pockets across most of our communities—particularly in the most remote rural patches—where provision is not happening. That causes complexities and leads to significant financial difficulties, on which Meghan Gallacher touched at length.

I remember that one of my first conversations with Roz McCall was on this subject, and we have had several conversations since then. I am not an expert. I have been to events that were organised by Pregnant Then Screwed, which is doing fantastic work. If I am lucky enough to come back after the election, I will continue to support everything that it does, everything that Roz McCall does and everything that anybody else does on this.

All that I wanted to say today, and the reason that I wanted to speak, is that I have lived and breathed the subject myself. We still live and breathe it, even though my children are older. My wife and I are still battling with part-time and full-time hours to work out who is at home when the children get home from school, for example.

The subject should be absolutely at the forefront of the mind of the next Government, whoever its members are.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-20786, in the name of Roz McCall, on improved childcare support for parents. The debate...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I thank members from across the chamber for supporting my motion to allow this debate to take place. It is on a really important issue, and I am delighted th...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I thank Roz McCall for securing this debate. It is important to see how the ELC system is working and how it can be improved.It is worth remarking in passing...
Roz McCall Con
I recognise what the member is saying, but that is not helping parents right now. How can we support parents to access that childcare?
Christine Grahame SNP
The point that I am making is that three and four-year-olds do not benefit only from free nursery education. There are lots of other supports for children, e...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I declare an interest: I sit on the advisory board of Pregnant Then Screwed.I come to this debate not as a member of the Parliament but as a parent. Last yea...
Christine Grahame SNP
I am trying to be helpful. Does the member think that remote working, which is not available to everybody, has helped to build in some flexibility for parents?
Meghan Gallacher Con
I remember that, during the gender recognition reform debate, I broke my maternity leave because it was important to me to vote on the issue. I had Charlotte...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Ms Gallacher, you are over your time. I move on to Davy Russell. I indicated to members that we are under time constraints today. Please speak to your allott...
Davy Russell (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (Lab) Lab
I thank Roz McCall for bringing the debate to the chamber.Childcare is a matter dear to my heart. I am a grandpa, and my grandson is lucky that, as well as m...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Mr Russell, I am sorry to interrupt you, but could you please move your microphone up? Thank you.
Davy Russell Lab
I am sorry. Where were we?There is a long-term impact when a parent has to leave work. It is harder to save on one income and non-working parents pay rent or...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
I thank Roz McCall for her motion and for this debate.We have heard from parents up and down the country not only about how expensive childcare is but about ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The member will shortly conclude her speech.
Gillian Mackay Green
Other things that we need to resolve include the issue that I raised at First Minister’s question time on cross-boundary placements. It is not an easy pictur...
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I, too, congratulate Roz McCall on securing the debate. It is interesting to hear, from across the chamber, about situations that I found myself in years ago...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I call the Minister for Children, Young People and The Promise, Natalie Don-Innes, to respond to the debate for up to seven minutes.13:23
The Minister for Children, Young People and The Promise (Natalie Don-Innes) SNP
Seven minutes is not enough time in which to deal with all the points that have been raised, but I am more than happy to follow up with members after the deb...
Meghan Gallacher Con
To clarify, my point was not about the funding that the Government has put in. In 2023, the Government promised to expand childcare from the age of nine mont...
Natalie Don-Innes SNP
I will come on to that point, but it is not the case that nothing has materialised; a lot has materialised.I know that families are still facing challenges. ...
Roz McCall Con
I whole-heartedly accept all the points that the minister is making about where the Government has spent money. However, will she accept that, if that spendi...
Natalie Don-Innes SNP
I understand that things are not working for everybody, but the point of the investment is to improve things. As I have laid out, increased investment year o...