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Meeting of the Parliament 17 February 2026 [Draft]

17 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill

I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests. I am married to a Roman Catholic primary school teacher, and I was formerly the convener of Together (Scottish Alliance for Children’s Rights).

I am pleased to speak for the Scottish Liberal Democrats at stage 3 of this important bill. Before entering politics, I was a youth worker. Fighting for the rights and wellbeing of children is in my DNA; it is why I am in politics. That is why legislation such as this bill matters to me, and it also matters to my party.

At stage 1, I said that the bill asked a fundamental question: do we believe that children have rights, and should those rights be taken seriously in the day-to-day decisions that shape their world view? In my party’s view, the answer remains yes.

Part 1 of the bill will strengthen the requirement for schools to involve children where decisions are taken about their participation in aspects of school life that affect their values. It will require that children be informed and given the space to express their views, and, where disagreement arises, it will require there to be engagement and ensure that children’s views are considered in line with their “age and maturity”.

Make no mistake: we are talking about a vanishingly small number of cases in which such a disagreement will take place. However, that provision reflects article 12 of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which is the right of the child to express a view on matters that affect them and for that view to be “given due weight” according to their “age and maturity”. We all signed up to that principle in the Parliament by unanimously agreeing to the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Act 2024. That principle is not radical; it is foundational.

We have heard legitimate concerns about clarity, the distinction between different elements of school provision, how capacity is assessed and how we ensure that family relationships are protected. I recognise that there are tensions. The concerns were raised in serious contributions, and they deserve serious consideration.

I and my party support the denominational school sector. I am married to a Roman Catholic primary school teacher and I led the defence of Roman Catholic schools and other denominational schools when they were challenged at my party conference some years ago. Religious education has been disaggregated from religious observation in the bill, and I believe that the bill is now in a space in which it will not disrupt religious education or threaten the existence of denominational schools.

Stage 2 improved the bill. Clarifications have been made and safeguards have been strengthened. Because of that, the balance between recognising children’s voices and respecting the central role of parents has been made clearer. There is always room for improvement in legislation, but part 1 of the bill now represents a proportionate and thoughtful step forward in embedding children’s rights in practice. The test for us at stage 3 is whether the bill as a whole strengthens or weakens children’s rights in Scotland. That is a balanced decision to make, but our judgment is that the bill, taken in the round, strengthens children’s rights.

Scotland has rightly been recognised for its ambition in incorporating the UNCRC into Scots law. That architecture must remain strong and we must take it seriously. It must remain enforceable and meaningful in day-to-day practice. The bill does not abandon that ambition; it builds on it—cautiously, yes, but constructively.

We, in this Parliament, have a duty not only to speak about children’s rights but to embed them—to consider them in the systems that shape children’s daily lives. The bill that we have debated today moves us forward in that regard. Liberal Democrats will vote for the bill at stage 3 not because it is flawless, but because it represents measured progress and because children’s rights are too important to be left standing still. Let us ensure that Scotland’s approach to children’s rights remains not only ambitious but careful, balanced and worthy of the young people whom it serves.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20813, in the name of Jenny Gilruth, on the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment o...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
The legislation that comes before Parliament today does not sit in isolation; rather, as we have heard from some members this afternoon, it is part of the wi...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee for its work on the bill, those who have given evidence and the organisations that provided ...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
We have heard a variety of views on the matter during the discussions on amendments this afternoon, and I am sure that we will hear more in the debate. Howev...
Miles Briggs Con
The courts will have to judge whether the Government has overstepped the mark in the legislation, given the contradictory UNCRC and European human rights pro...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
I wonder what the member thinks of a story that a constituent shared with me. She runs a Christian kids’ club in her local primary school. A little child was...
Miles Briggs Con
That is an individual case. Looking at how this will play out in the different scenarios that bureaucratic systems will look towards is very different.
Martin Whitfield Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
The Presiding Officer NPA
This will have to be very brief.
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am very grateful, Presiding Officer.The debate that we are having is about religious education and religious observance in a school setting, not about club...
Miles Briggs Con
The Deputy First Minister has pointed towards that club being held in a school, and I imagine that that is likely to be discouraged, given that scenario.I am...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As we have concluded the amendment stages of the bill, I join others in thanking the legislation team for their ever-present support with drafting amendments...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I begin by thanking a number of people who have helped us get to this point today. As ever, the legislation team are unsung heroes, expertly drafting amendme...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests. I am married to a Roman Catholic primary school teacher, and I was formerly the convener ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate.19:30
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
The bill is about children’s rights showing up in the real world—in the school day and in the decisions that adults make that can change how a young person e...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Well, I think that the bill is a mess. It has struggled its way through the different stages in this Parliament, and today’s stage 3 amendments were evidence...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Stephen Kerr Con
Yes, of course.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
The issues around conflict were discussed at length in the evidence sessions that were led by the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, and i...
Stephen Kerr Con
I do not doubt that conflict exists currently, but it exists within a very clear framework of law. The bill is not a clear framework of law.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
We will have to disagree on that.
Stephen Kerr Con
I think that we will—the cabinet secretary is correct.Of course children must be respected and they must be heard, but the Conservatives also recognise the f...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Reform) Reform
I will be brief. I agree with Stephen Kerr that the bill is a bit of a dog’s breakfast. I approach the bill from the point of view of asking whether it will ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the winding-up speeches.19:41
Maggie Chapman Green
As I indicated earlier, my closing remarks will focus on part 2 of the bill. I remain uncomfortable with that part of the bill. What is happening is that, ju...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
I understand the member’s point. There has been quite a move in recent years to remove religious observance from school or to assume that to be secular is to...
Maggie Chapman Green
I am talking about part 2 of the bill, which is not about religious observance. However, on that point, we believe that there should be separation of church ...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests.I apologise to Karen Adam for having to step out during her speech. I will look it up, I as...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
The debate has been thoughtful, and I thank members from all parties for their contributions. Everyone who spoke did so out of a genuine concern for children...