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Meeting of the Parliament 17 February 2026 [Draft]

17 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill

As we have concluded the amendment stages of the bill, I join others in thanking the legislation team for their ever-present support with drafting amendments, all those who have taken an interest in the bill and who have engaged with me and colleagues on it, those who have prepared briefings and, of course, committee colleagues for their work at stages 1 and 2.

At the start of the bill’s passage, the cabinet secretary sought to reassure Parliament and the wider public that it would be a short technical bill and that she was seeking consensus across the Parliament. Instead, she has managed to unite some unlikely bedfellows in opposition to the bill. What has been created is a halfway house that appears to please nobody.

Coming to today’s proceedings, we were faced with a range of amendments that could shift, change or reset whole parts of the bill and amendments that could result in fundamental shifts in the position of parents’ rights, as we have heard, and in the position of denominational schools and how they deliver RE and RO in Scotland. That cannot be the outcome that the Government was looking for at the start of the process, and it speaks to much of what I referenced in the proceedings on amendments.

The heart of the matter is that the Government has introduced a bill without a clear answer to the fundamental questions that we should all ask ourselves when considering legislation, which are, “What is it for?” and, “Why are we doing it now?” As a consequence, the bill has had a chaotic, short journey and has caused a level of uncertainty. Due to that, I want to put on record that I cannot support the bill at decision time.

The detail of part 1 of the bill is, I think, confused, and was further confused by the amendments that were lodged at stage 2. Fundamentally, I regret that the Government did not support my amendment, which would have sought to offer a degree of reassurance to those in the denominational sector. I do not believe that it was too much to ask that the Education (Scotland) Act 1918 and the Education (Scotland) Act 1980 be put into the bill for the avoidance of doubt.

I say that because those pieces of legislation are totemic for those in the faith sector in Scotland and, in particular, for those in the Catholic education sector. I referenced in my contribution on my amendment the reason why those pieces of legislation came into being and the opportunities that they have afforded generations of young people and their families in this country. As I said at the weekend in reference to that amendment, if people do not have a problem with faith schools in Scotland or with the continuation of Catholic education, they should have had no problem in backing that amendment. That is why I am disappointed that the amendment was not agreed to by the Parliament tonight, because it was an opportunity for the first time in the history of devolution to put those acts into and on the face of an act of the Scottish Parliament.

Substantial changes to practices in Scottish schools that have existed for decades—particularly those changes that affect denominational settings—should not have been rushed through by way of amendments in the last months of a parliamentary session. This policy required a much more considered approach and a fuller discussion. In my opinion, there has been a lack of understanding throughout the consideration of the bill about how denominational schools operate. We have seen that in the varied amendments that were considered earlier, which have resulted in the confused bill that we have ended up with.

It was remarkable to see some of the interventions that were made in the intervening period. The Bishops Conference of Scotland gave a stark warning about its concerns at the conclusion of stage 2.

Labour members are supportive of the long-standing position in Scots law on the protection of faith education, but we also understand that, if we are going to have a wider debate about the UNCRC and children’s rights, we cannot rush that through our consideration of the bill. I referred to that in relation to many of the amendments that were offered by Green colleagues today.

There is a fundamental and complex relationship between the rights that are advanced for children and young people and the rights of their parents. That will take a longer debate and a longer time to understand, and it cannot be rushed at this point in parliamentary proceedings.

Of course we cannot disregard the concerns that have been outlined. We cannot simply walk by and pass a piece of legislation because we believe that it has to be done by the end of the session. I outlined that more widely in relation to the question of what has changed between the reconsideration of the UNCRC incorporation legislation and now to make the bill before us so urgent and so necessary—particularly in its latter parts, in relation to the UNCRC. I do not think that we received an answer on that point. Perhaps the cabinet secretary will be able to say, when she sums up, what has changed and what her concerns are that have led us to where the bill is now.

Finally, and looking more widely, with mere weeks of this parliamentary session left to run, and at a time when resources for schools are already limited, I remain unclear as to why the Government felt the need to introduce the bill in the manner it did, and to allow it to be amended in such a way as to leave a bill that I think is confused and may do more harm than good.

For those reasons, I and Scottish Labour colleagues will vote against the bill tonight.

19:22

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20813, in the name of Jenny Gilruth, on the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment o...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
The legislation that comes before Parliament today does not sit in isolation; rather, as we have heard from some members this afternoon, it is part of the wi...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee for its work on the bill, those who have given evidence and the organisations that provided ...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
We have heard a variety of views on the matter during the discussions on amendments this afternoon, and I am sure that we will hear more in the debate. Howev...
Miles Briggs Con
The courts will have to judge whether the Government has overstepped the mark in the legislation, given the contradictory UNCRC and European human rights pro...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
I wonder what the member thinks of a story that a constituent shared with me. She runs a Christian kids’ club in her local primary school. A little child was...
Miles Briggs Con
That is an individual case. Looking at how this will play out in the different scenarios that bureaucratic systems will look towards is very different.
Martin Whitfield Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
The Presiding Officer NPA
This will have to be very brief.
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am very grateful, Presiding Officer.The debate that we are having is about religious education and religious observance in a school setting, not about club...
Miles Briggs Con
The Deputy First Minister has pointed towards that club being held in a school, and I imagine that that is likely to be discouraged, given that scenario.I am...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As we have concluded the amendment stages of the bill, I join others in thanking the legislation team for their ever-present support with drafting amendments...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I begin by thanking a number of people who have helped us get to this point today. As ever, the legislation team are unsung heroes, expertly drafting amendme...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests. I am married to a Roman Catholic primary school teacher, and I was formerly the convener ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate.19:30
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
The bill is about children’s rights showing up in the real world—in the school day and in the decisions that adults make that can change how a young person e...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Well, I think that the bill is a mess. It has struggled its way through the different stages in this Parliament, and today’s stage 3 amendments were evidence...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Stephen Kerr Con
Yes, of course.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
The issues around conflict were discussed at length in the evidence sessions that were led by the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, and i...
Stephen Kerr Con
I do not doubt that conflict exists currently, but it exists within a very clear framework of law. The bill is not a clear framework of law.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
We will have to disagree on that.
Stephen Kerr Con
I think that we will—the cabinet secretary is correct.Of course children must be respected and they must be heard, but the Conservatives also recognise the f...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Reform) Reform
I will be brief. I agree with Stephen Kerr that the bill is a bit of a dog’s breakfast. I approach the bill from the point of view of asking whether it will ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the winding-up speeches.19:41
Maggie Chapman Green
As I indicated earlier, my closing remarks will focus on part 2 of the bill. I remain uncomfortable with that part of the bill. What is happening is that, ju...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
I understand the member’s point. There has been quite a move in recent years to remove religious observance from school or to assume that to be secular is to...
Maggie Chapman Green
I am talking about part 2 of the bill, which is not about religious observance. However, on that point, we believe that there should be separation of church ...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests.I apologise to Karen Adam for having to step out during her speech. I will look it up, I as...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
The debate has been thoughtful, and I thank members from all parties for their contributions. Everyone who spoke did so out of a genuine concern for children...