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Meeting of the Parliament 17 February 2026 [Draft]

17 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

It was the great French philosopher and civil rights campaigner Voltaire who warned:

“Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good”,

and that is the crime that we are being invited to commit in the Parliament this afternoon.

I have grown tired of members opting for inaction and mediocrity in place of action and ambition, or saying that we agree with these universal and immutable principles of democracy, of openness, transparency and accountability, but not here and not now.

We know that the provision of public services has become a mixed economy and that outsourcing is rife. It is because of that that, if we are to update our freedom of information, improve the statutory right of access to it, advance the proactive publication of how public money is used, defend public interest journalism and challenge the existing structure of power, we need to pass this reform bill today.

Bodies, including many transnational private corporations that deliver public services with public money, should be covered by freedom of information—of course they should. In fact, maybe that should be a condition of receiving public money or being awarded public contracts in the first place. Information, including data, should be published not just reactively but proactively. It is not a burden, it is not red tape, it is not an inconvenience or a distraction—it is a democratic right.

What we should have learned down the years is that our security and our wellbeing spring not from surreptitious secrecy but from open democracy, which is why many of us see this bill as an important antidote to the corrosion of trust in public life.

I am speaking in this afternoon’s debate as a Labour Party representative, but my experience as the convener of the Parliament’s Public Audit Committee is that there continue to be persistent data deficits and chronic information gaps right across the public sector in Scotland. When we conducted our inquiry into the ferries order at Ferguson Marine, we found that the Scottish Government’s record keeping, up to and including meetings taken by the then First Minister, left a lot to be desired. We now know as well, because of the Covid public inquiry, of the deletion on an industrial scale of communications by SNP Government ministers, up to and including the current First Minister.

The culture change that the bill will help to drive is not just out there; it is in here—and we know that publicity is the best disinfectant. To the Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans, who tells us that the bill is timed out, I say: what about the Government’s Covid emergency legislation, which we passed in a matter of days in 2020? What about the Government’s deeply flawed Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill? Why is the minister pressing ahead with that and finding the parliamentary time for it? Why is it that the Government can find parliamentary time to pass legislation to collect rates on empty properties in days but there is no time to modernise our freedom of information laws in weeks?

Well, this is a member’s bill in the name of Katy Clark, who is to be congratulated for getting it on the Parliament’s agenda and for winning the argument, but let me make it clear to the Government, which seeks to wreck this bill today, that there is a movement out there demanding these reforms. It is a movement made up of campaigners who will not go away. If Parliament does not pass this legislation tonight—if the Government kills the bill today—it will return. We will see civil rights advance. We will see the veils of secrecy torn down by the people. We will see the triumph of hope and democracy. We will see the people empowered.

14:53

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20815, in the name of Katy Clark, on the Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. I call...
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is almost 25 years since the passing of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002, also known as FOISA. My bill is not a criticism of that act, which...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Reform) Reform
Does Katy Clark agree that the Government could have taken on the bill, as it could with any member’s bill? It chose not to, which shows that it has no appet...
Katy Clark Lab
I fully agree with that.The committee backed bringing companies that are jointly owned by the Scottish Government and other bodies into the scope of freedom ...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
Freedom of information is not an abstract constitutional principle; it is the cornerstone of public trust in Scotland’s institutions, and it is how people un...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I rise as convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. I thank everyone who contributed to the committee’s scrutiny of the bill a...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
In the extremely limited time that I have at my disposal, I will begin by acknowledging the significant contribution that Katy Clark has made to the debate o...
Graham Simpson Reform
Will the minister take an intervention?
Graeme Dey SNP
Very briefly—if I get my time back, Presiding Officer.
Graham Simpson Reform
Does the minister agree that the Parliament is not being asked to decide whether there is enough time to get the bill through? It is being asked to decide wh...
Graeme Dey SNP
I am sure that Mr Simpson has been listening. If he listened to the points made by Sue Webber and the convener about the many issues with the bill, he would ...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It was the great French philosopher and civil rights campaigner Voltaire who warned:“Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good”,and that is the crime th...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
It would not be a Richard Leonard speech if it did not begin with a quotation from a great philosopher. If I am lucky enough to be returned in the election I...
Sue Webber Con
Will Patrick Harvie give way?
Patrick Harvie Green
I am afraid that I do not have time.My party will make clear commitments. It is incumbent on every political party, including the SNP, to make clear commitme...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (LD) LD
When trust in politics is pretty much at an all-time low, we should all be doing everything that we can to gain back that trust. It is a really bad look for ...
Sue Webber Con
Will the member accept an intervention?
Jamie Greene LD
I just do not have time unless I can get it back, and I can see the Deputy Presiding Officer giving me a no to that.I appreciate that Parliament will not hav...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
We now move to the open debate.15:01
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
I thank Katy Clark for the way that she has gone about the business of progressing her member’s bill.Trying to sum up my thoughts on FOI in four minutes will...
Mercedes Villalba (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I begin by thanking my friend and comrade Katy Clark for taking up the challenge of reforming our freedom of information laws to be fit for the 21st century....
Sue Webber Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. In her remarks, the member stated that Lothian Buses is owned by the council in Edinburgh. She may want to correct th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Thank you. That is not a point of order, but it is on the record.15:09
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Reform) Reform
I congratulate Katy Clark on getting the bill to this stage, but I have to say that I feel for her after what she must have thought was quite a negative repo...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
We move to closing speeches. I call Patrick Harvie, who has up to four minutes.15:13
Patrick Harvie Green
I may not use all of that time, Presiding Officer. I am not sure that I have a huge amount more to add beyond what I said in my opening speech, but I will re...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Patrick Harvie, in summing up, poured a bit of scorn on those who like to claim that the Scottish Government wants to be secretive or to sit on information. ...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
When people submit a freedom of information request, they are not making a political statement. They are usually asking something very ordinary, such as, “Wh...
Graeme Dey SNP
I thank all members who have contributed to the debate this afternoon, whether I have entirely or partially agreed or disagreed with them.Richard Leonard mad...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I note that committee members are encouraged to leave their party hats at the door. That point notwithstanding, we are, as always, being asked to consider th...