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Meeting of the Parliament 10 February 2026 [Draft]

10 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill
Fraser, Murdo Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

Just to make it clear, the Scottish Conservatives will be supporting the bill at stage 3, in a short time—as, indeed, we did at stage 1, when we backed the bill’s general principles.

I start by thanking everybody for the part that they have played: the clerks of the Economy and Fair Work Committee and the Scottish Parliament information centre, who supported us, and all those who gave the committee evidence. I thank my fellow committee members for their very collegiate approach in trying to improve the bill. Indeed, there were some perhaps unusual alliances. Lorna Slater voted for some of my amendments and I voted for some of Lorna Slater’s amendments. That demonstrates the value of cross-party co-operation and working. We did not agree on everything; nevertheless, we were able to get the bill improved at stage 2—not always to the delight of the minister. We had very constructive engagement with the minister in any case. Particularly when it came to stage 3, there was a joint endeavour to tidy up some of the bill’s imperfect wording that had been agreed at stage 2 to ensure that the bill got to the place that it needed to be at stage 3. We all worked together extremely well, and I am grateful to the minister for his co-operation and support.

I put forward only one basic issue at stage 2, dealing with the question of the percentage of spend that would go into local businesses and local economies through procurement. I felt it important for the community wealth building plans to have a target set in them. I do not think that we should be prescriptive as to what that target is, and I do not think that the Government should be setting that target; it should be set by the local partners. That principle was an important one. I am very pleased that the committee agreed on that and was able to get it into the bill, tweaking the wording at stage 3.

Community wealth building is a good thing—I think that we can all agree on that. It seeks to use the economic impact of anchor organisations—public, private or third sector—to stimulate and retain economic activity in a local area. As we discussed when we considered the bill at stage 1, there are five pillars to community wealth building: maximising the benefits of public procurement, which we have talked about; increasing fair work and skills development opportunities for the workforce; ensuring that land and property are used to benefit communities, SMEs and the environment; inclusive ownership; and finance.

The question of land and property is really interesting. Just yesterday, I met a community group in the Carse of Gowrie that is looking to take over what is, in effect, a derelict orchard and bring it into use for the local community. The group is doing so under legislation that the Parliament previously passed, but it strikes me that that is the sort of initiative that the community wealth building agenda seeks to support. It is about looking at lands and buildings that are either derelict or not being used to their fullest potential and bringing them back into more productive use—either economic use or, in this particular case, environmental and sustainable use for the benefit of the community.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20717, in the name of Ivan McKee, on the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill at stage 3. I invite t...
Ivan McKee (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) SNP
I begin by thanking the Economy and Fair Work Committee for its scrutiny of the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill. I also highlight the input from Ri...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Just to make it clear, the Scottish Conservatives will be supporting the bill at stage 3, in a short time—as, indeed, we did at stage 1, when we backed the b...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I very much agree with Murdo Fraser’s point. Does he agree that we must use initiatives such as this to almost tip the balance? All too often, communities fe...
Murdo Fraser Con
That is a very reasonable point. The land that I was talking about was private land and not publicly owned land, but the same principle applies. We have a lo...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I, too, thank the Economy and Fair Work Committee, our clerks and everyone who gave evidence. It is something of a relief not to speak in the debate as the c...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will Daniel Johnson give way on that point?
Daniel Johnson Lab
Well, it depends on which point.
Stephen Kerr Con
I think that we would like to hear Daniel Johnson speak more often about what he really thinks, particularly in the light of recent events.
Daniel Johnson Lab
I have only five minutes, so I will stay on the topic. In addition, the standing orders say that we must speak to the motion. Laughter.I will speak to a poin...
Lorna Slater (Lothian) (Green) Green
For the first time since I became an MSP, my husband came to me and said, “Is this thing on TikTok about you?” He was referring to a video from someone outsi...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
We move to the open debate.16:08
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) SNP
Mercifully, Mrs Hepburn has not yet brought to my attention any TikTok videos about my endeavours, but there might be time yet.At its heart, community wealth...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is true that the bill is in better shape than it was when it was introduced by the Government, but I cannot help but be reminded of the phrase that Aneuri...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you. We now move to closing speeches.16:17
Lorna Slater Green
The report that has been referenced by several colleagues, “Developing Scotland’s Economy: Increasing the Role of Inclusive and Democratic Business Models”, ...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
The Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill is not just a means of trading a slogan; it represents a recognition that Scotland’s wealth is based in the loc...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Yesterday, I went to see my 92-year-old aunt. She is a remarkable woman: independent, sharp minded and proud of standing on her own two feet. She still lives...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Stephen Kerr Con
In a second. It is ironic that, while we have been talking about those things, a local authority in Scotland is procuring food for meals on wheels from hundr...
Kate Forbes SNP
Yesterday, I formally opened the new Inverness Castle Experience, which has a cafe with a menu that has a detailed description of where all the food comes fr...
Stephen Kerr Con
Hallelujah!
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
That is the good food nation for you.
Stephen Kerr Con
Yes, the good food nation and all that stuff—excellent.However, my point is about the gap between rhetoric—in which we specialise—and reality. Such a gap is ...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Keep going.
Stephen Kerr Con
Listen, there is not going to be a division on that, okay? Laughter.Believing in those things means being serious about delivery. It means asking whether leg...
Ivan McKee SNP
I would like to thank all members for what has been, by and large, a constructive debate. I think that it is true to say that there is consensus that communi...