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Meeting of the Parliament 10 February 2026 [Draft]

10 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

I will speak to amendment 1 and the other amendments in my name in this group.

The purpose of amendments 1 and 5 is to challenge the outsourcing of public services, especially by local anchor institutions. A founding principle of community wealth building is to stop leakage and to build greater local and community self-sufficiency. That is why we should be encouraging in-sourcing, not outsourcing, of public services.

We have seen some good examples of it in the national health service, where, over the past year, bank nursing/agency spend has been driven down by local health boards, and, over the past few years, facilities and staff at hospitals such as Cumnock community hospital have been brought in-house, and, in Lanarkshire, Serco has been removed from Wishaw general hospital. Other examples can be seen in the Scottish Prison Service, where HMP Kilmarnock has been brought in-house, and Serco has been removed; and on the railways, where Abellio and—again—Serco are now gone, and ScotRail and the Caledonian Sleeper service are run in-house.

A recent Scottish Trades Union Congress-commissioned report into outsourcing pointed out that the outsourcing of social care and, in particular, soft facilities management means that women are much more likely to be outsourced than men. Paragraph 9.3 of that STUC report addresses the five pillars of community wealth building. It says:

“Each of these elements”

of community wealth building

“is undermined by the outsourcing of public services. Smaller economic delivery units are most likely to re-spend money earned from providing services at a local level; the smallest economic unit of delivery is directly employed staff, and the shortest supply chain is direct provision.”

Amendments 2 and 6 ask the Scottish Parliament to use this bill to promote and encourage more democratic forms of ownership and control in financial services, including the encouragement of municipal banks, of mutual banks and building societies and of credit unions. That should be recognised as part of the mosaic of community wealth building, in both the community wealth building ministerial statement and in local community wealth building action plans. That was a feature of the Economy and Fair Work Committee’s stage 1 report, and finance is one of the key pillars of community wealth building.

I move amendment 1.

In the same item of business

14:23
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings on the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill. In dealing with the amendments, members should have the bi...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 1 is on measures that may be taken. Amendment 1, in the name of Richard Leonard, is grouped with amendments 2, 13, 14, 5, 6, 17 and 18.
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I will speak to amendment 1 and the other amendments in my name in this group.The purpose of amendments 1 and 5 is to challenge the outsourcing of public ser...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I will speak to amendments 13 and 17, which are in my name. They would both insert “co-operative financial institutions” into the measures that are associate...
Lorna Slater (Lothian) (Green) Green
My amendments 14 and 18 would replace the word “investment” with the words “funding and finance”. The line that is affected, which reads“promoting access to ...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I think that Lorna Slater is speaking to an amendment that is not in this group. I just wanted to make that clear.
Lorna Slater Green
My apologies—I was speaking to amendment 16, and the member is right: I was looking at the wrong grouping. I thank Mr Kerr.
The Minister for Public Finance (Ivan McKee) SNP
The Government is not in a position to support Richard Leonard’s amendments 1 and 5, which seek to introduce additional measures into both the community weal...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Richard Leonard to wind up and indicate whether he wishes to press or withdraw amendment 1.
Richard Leonard Lab
I must say that it is interesting that the minister recognises examples of in-sourcing, some of which have been conducted by his own Government, but then goe...
Ivan McKee SNP
More accurately, I said that the member had not accurately defined in-sourcing in his amendments.
Richard Leonard Lab
On the one hand, we are told that this is a general permissive piece of legislation and that we cannot have too much prescription in it. However, now, I am b...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 1 be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. As this is the first division of the stage, I will suspend the meeting for around five minutes to allow members to access the digit...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We come to the vote on amendment 1, in the name of Richard Leonard. Members should cast their votes now.
ForChoudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Ind)Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab)Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)Griffin, Mar...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division is: For 13, Against 82, Abstentions 0.Amendment 1 disagreed to.Amendment 2 moved—Richard Leonard.
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 2 be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division.
ForChoudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Ind)Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab)Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)Greene, Jami...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division is: For 14, Against 83, Abstentions 0.Amendment 2 disagreed to.Amendment 13 moved—Paul Sweeney—and agreed to.Amendment 14 moved—Lo...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 14 be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division.
ForChapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green)Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green)Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Gr...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division is: For 6, Against 91, Abstentions 0.Amendment 14 disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 2 is on targets, indicators and reporting. Amendment 3, in the name of Richard Leonard, is grouped with amendments 4, 19, 7, 20, 28, 29, 10, 30 to 32 a...
Richard Leonard Lab
Amendment 3 simply seeks to set a target of doubling the size of the worker co-operative and employee ownership sector in Scotland by 2030, and then to revis...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I have four amendments in this group, all of which basically deal with the same point.At stage 2, I lodged an amendment requiring community wealth building p...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
In many ways, I pick up where Murdo Fraser left off. One of the committee’s key concerns or observations during stages 1 and 2 was that, without any system o...