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Meeting of the Parliament 05 February 2026 [Draft]

05 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Mountain, Edward Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I congratulate Monica Lennon on introducing the bill. I know that she has put a huge amount of work into it, and we have had a good discussion at stage 1. I thank all those who engaged with the committee during our scrutiny of the bill and, in particular, the committee members and our clerks for their hard work and diligence during the process.

The committee agreed from the start that this is a debate worth having. There is a case to be made for strengthening the law. We heard views that the current legal framework lacks an apex offence for serious environmental damage, with penalties to match. We heard about the potential deterrent effect that the new offence might create and how it might influence corporate behaviour for the good, even if prosecutions are rare. We heard views that it would be one way—not necessarily the only way—to keep pace with revised European law.

However, the committee also found two other things. First, the evidence as to whether there is much of a gap in the law is finely balanced. Regulators and prosecutors told us that the existing powers—in particular, section 40 of the Regulatory Reform (Scotland) Act 2014—appear to be more than capable of addressing quite serious harm. They struggled to identify examples of cases that would clearly have met the proposed ecocide threshold.

Secondly, and even more importantly, our scrutiny found significant concerns about the clarity and workability of definitions of key terms in the bill such as “severe environmental harm”, “widespread” and “serious adverse effects”. Prosecutors and regulators emphasised the importance of legal certainty, especially if prosecution could mean a huge fine or a long spell in prison. Doubts were raised about whether some of the current drafting has the legal certainty that is required.

There was also a concern about unintended consequences. I referred to the potential deterrent effect as an argument for the bill. It could affect risk appetite, but there is another side of the coin. The bill does not provide a defence of carrying out permitted activities or exercising lawful functions, such as approving a planning application. We heard serious concerns about that. We heard that the bill could have a chilling effect on decision makers.

Then there are the practical challenges of enforcement, such as those of establishing the thought process in complex corporate cases, of getting right the detail of employer liability and of allowing alternative convictions if the jury is not persuaded that the conduct was bad enough to justify a finding of ecocide. There is also the fact that the current section 40 offence has barely been used at all. Why is that? That needs to be looked at.

If the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the bill, those issues are not going to go away. The committee was not unanimous on the general principles, but all of us agreed that if the bill reaches stage 2, evidence will need to be taken on those matters—including views from experts on the wording of the proposed amendments. Most of us doubted that there was sufficient time left to get it right and ensure that we have a robust, workable law on the statute book. It is fair to say that I am concerned about where we go from here.

There are two bits of unsolicited advice that I give to the members in the next parliamentary session, from somebody who will not be here in May. First, please let us not have members’ bills on complex, controversial issues introduced so late in the parliamentary session. It is unfair on the member in charge of the bill and on the lead committee. It is not where we should start from if we want to make good law.

Secondly, let us not have another Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee, with its near-impossible remit—it is far too wide and diverse and there are far too many issues to keep on top of. At a point at which some other committees might be winding down, as a committee, we are busier than ever, with the scrutiny of the draft climate change plan coming to a head, loads of important subordinate legislation, legislative consent memorandums on other matters, and the latest issues on ferries—to mention nothing about the Railways Bill.

If the Ecocide (Scotland) Bill proceeds, I will, of course, respect the will of the Parliament and try to adhere to whatever deadlines are set. However, I want to be crystal clear that it will be a serious challenge to scrutinise the bill in the time that remains, to make good law and to make sure that it is effective. Personally, I do not believe that it is a challenge that we can achieve.

14:37

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20606, in the name of Monica Lennon, on the Ecocide (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. I invite members who wish...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I begin by declaring a financial interest, which is listed in my entry in the register of interests: I have received in-kind support from Stop Ecocide Intern...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I call Edward Mountain to speak on behalf of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.14:32
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I congratulate Monica Lennon on introducing the bill. I know that she has put a huge amount of work into it, and we have had a good discussion at stage 1. I ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Climate Action and Energy (Gillian Martin) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to contribute to the debate on Monica Lennon’s Ecocide (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. The protection of our natural environmen...
Douglas Lumsden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Does the cabinet secretary agree that the changes would have to be so substantial that it would only be right for the committee to take more evidence on what...
Gillian Martin SNP
I respect what the convener said in that regard. As he pointed out and as I know as the former convener of two committees, a judgment is made on behalf of co...
Douglas Lumsden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
We have reached the crunch time of our parliamentary session, when bills such as the one that we are debating simply do not have the time and space to be deb...
Monica Lennon Lab
I declare an interest as a fellow member of the committee, although I was recused from scrutiny of the bill.I recognise that, like other committees, the comm...
Douglas Lumsden Con
I absolutely trust that Monica Lennon would not waste any parliamentary time, but we have to respect the deadlines and timescales that are set out in our sta...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I, too, thank Monica Lennon for her work on the bill and for introducing it in Parliament. I know just how much work is required to introduce a bill in our P...
Edward Mountain Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Sarah Boyack Lab
I apologise, but I have only four minutes.That is important, because the potential impact of deterrence would have to be backed up by guidance and training f...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I thank Monica Lennon for bringing forward Scotland’s first ever ecocide legislation. I was delighted to be at the launch of her bill in Edinburgh a couple o...
Edward Mountain Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Mark Ruskell Green
If there is time in hand, I will.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
There is a bit of time.
Edward Mountain Con
Given the concerns that you have raised, do you believe, as I do, that, if the bill proceeds, it is really important that we get any amendments in early, so ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Always speak through the chair.
Mark Ruskell Green
I agree with our convener. We almost need a form of expedited process. I am not talking about a change to standing orders; I simply mean that we need a way o...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I call Liam McArthur to open on behalf of the Scottish Liberal Democrats.14:57
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I join others in congratulating Monica Lennon on getting a bill to this stage, as I know only too well that, irrespective of the complexity of the bill, it t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
We will now move to the open debate. There is a small amount of time in hand at this point, but we will see how that goes.15:00
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
I commend Monica Lennon for introducing the bill and for her tenacity in getting it to this stage.The word “ecocide” is from the Greek “oikos”, which means h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I reiterate that there is a bit of time in hand, so I am able to be a wee bit generous. If that time gets used up, I will let members know15:06
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
In the coming weeks, I will be leaving this Parliament for the very last time. When I was first elected 10 years ago, I vowed in coming here to leave the wor...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
I have no truck with the shooting lobby, but as a member of the Parliament who is on the committee that is scrutinising the bill, is it right that we scrutin...
Richard Leonard Lab
The point that I am making is that there has been talk in briefings that we have received about unintended consequences. The overarching purpose of this bill...
Elena Whitham (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in support of the bill, because, at its heart, the legislation is about justice: justice for our environment, justice for our communiti...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I call Bob Doris.15:15