Committee
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee 20 January 2026 [Draft]
20 Jan 2026 · S6 · Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Item of business
Neurodivergence
Dr Crabb
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The work is absolutely consistent with the pillars of work that we recommended in our multisystem report, which was published in October. As you pointed out, we cannot keep doing what we are doing. That is the definition of insanity—doing the same thing and expecting the result to be different. Alternatively, we could find a ring-fenced piece of money, do a waiting list initiative, invest in more assessments and do more pilot projects. In the next 12 months, we need to move to delivering the pillars of work that we have recommended, across society.As you highlighted, it is about asking what reasonable adjustments are in schools, colleges and universities, and what reasonable adjustments employers can provide in workplaces. If somebody feels that they need those adjustments, they should be provided. I find it remarkable in my practice, when we speak to tutors at colleges, teachers at school or—with people’s permission—employers, and they say, “Of course, I would have done that ages ago if I had known it would be helpful. That is not a big deal.” It is about having really clear advice about reasonable adjustments across society, because they will be helpful whether someone has a formal diagnosis or traits. Even for a child or young person who is not neurodivergent, there may be a benefit to them if a school is able to offer things such as a movement break.We ask the committee to use its influence to ensure that a cross-government approach is taken, because this is way bigger than just health or social care. We need clear guidance in the benefits system, criminal justice system, the workplace and the education system about what reasonable adjustments should be provided in practical terms, so that there is no delay, such adjustments can be put in place and people do not get stuck but can keep moving on in their lives.The second thing is that we need to have really clear evidence-based advice for the public and family members, so that they do not get stuck waiting for people like us to tell them what might be helpful. We need services such as NHS Inform to make really clear evidence-based guidelines available to the public. People need to know where they are. Guidelines need to inform the whole system, such as health visitors giving advice on things such as screen time, exercise, caffeine and sleep, right through the life course, so that people can start to work through the factors that can make neurodiversity more challenging.We then need to commission, at scale, on a once-for-Scotland basis, initial self-help and peer support groups for people. There are really good models in place—we have so many pilots across Scotland that show that you can take a range of approaches. The models usually involve coaching and peer support—which can be run by third sector partners—that people can access whether they have a diagnosis or not, and they can dip in and out of that support, depending on what is happening in their life. Those things are the bottom tiers of support that society needs to move to a better place.
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The Convener (Karen Adam)
SNP
Good morning, and welcome to the second meeting in 2026 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have received apologies from Paul O’K...
Dr Jim Crabb (Royal College of Psychiatrists in Scotland)
I would be glad to. Thank you so much for allowing us to come and give evidence on this issue, which is probably one of the widest and most pressing issues t...
Dr Leonie Boeing (Royal College of Psychiatrists in Scotland)
I echo those thanks for convening this meeting and giving us so much time to present our evidence. As a bit of background, I have been a consultant child and...
The Convener
SNP
We move to questions from committee members, beginning with Maggie Chapman.
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green)
Green
Good morning to you both. Thank you for being here today and for the detail in your report.I am interested in a couple of different areas, one of which is di...
Dr Crabb
That is a huge area. It is not an either/or situation; it is an and situation. That is one of the challenges. We are taught, particularly in the UK, to think...
Maggie Chapman
Green
I will pick up on the second example that you gave. Clearly, in that case, a diagnosis was essential to opening up care packages. I am not at all trying to d...
Dr Crabb
Absolutely. We have recommended that as one of the 10 pillars of work that are needed across society. We should take a needs-based approach to support in sch...
Dr Boeing
It is a fascinating question, and people have very different feelings about it. We must be sensitive to what an individual wants or needs, because this is al...
Maggie Chapman
Green
Thanks to both of you—that is helpful. You talked about meeting needs when they arise. Some children go on to the waiting list as teenagers and, if current w...
Dr Crabb
The work is absolutely consistent with the pillars of work that we recommended in our multisystem report, which was published in October. As you pointed out,...
Maggie Chapman
Green
Thanks very much. Do you have anything to add, Leonie?
Dr Boeing
We need to adapt support for kids. The context is school, education and the need to mobilise the third sector. I have never met a more passionate, motivated,...
Dr Crabb
It is about equality of access, which is why we need central commissioning in this area—the landscape is currently so fragmented. We have more than 32 differ...
Dr Boeing
One size will not fit all for every area. If we look at the workforce issues that exist, we can see that some areas have no child and adolescent psychiatrist...
Maggie Chapman
Green
Your comments—especially your point about the fact that inclusion is good for everyone, regardless of diagnosis or condition—provide a helpful foundation for...
The Convener
SNP
Before we move on to questions from Tess White, Paul McLennan has a supplementary.
Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP)
SNP
When I met you guys, a key thing that came through in our discussion was the need for a multi-agency approach. I think that you are right to say that the Gov...
Dr Boeing
Yes, and that is a massive issue that we have been talking about for decades. It is an issue across the board, but I agree that there needs to be a universal...
Dr Crabb
To follow on from that, it is one of those situations in which the answer is, “Yes—and”. We always need more people in the workforce and we need to plan for ...
Paul McLennan
SNP
Thank you—that is very helpful.
The Convener
SNP
We now have questions from Tess White.
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con)
Con
A few things that you have said have really resonated, and I thank you for the report. I want to pick up the point about what humans need to grow and thrive....
Dr Crabb
The answer is yes. Research comes out all the time, but we have done rapid reviews of the evidence and have worked with colleagues in NHS Inform to update it...
Tess White
Con
Noise is another issue, as Dr Boeing said. I wonder whether, when schools were designed to be open plan, anyone actually thought about the human factors.I wa...
Dr Boeing
It is not my area of expertise, but research has shown that ultra-processed foods are linked to increased mental distress and have an effect on performance, ...
Tess White
Con
They used to play outside.
Dr Boeing
The digital stuff is a real hot potato at the moment, but there is a lot of work going on in that area. There is also a degree of urgency. Dr Jim Crabb is pa...
Dr Crabb
I am. We have the lessons from history. There was literally no argument about cigarette smoking and lung disease, but we waited decades before anything was d...
Tess White
Con
You talked about 45,000 people waiting for diagnosis, and I think that more than half of them are children. Is there a huge risk arising from the fact that p...