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Meeting of the Parliament 07 October 2025

07 Oct 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill
Nicoll, Audrey SNP Aberdeen South and North Kincardine Watch on SPTV

I thank everyone who supported scrutiny of the bill through its passage to stage 3 this afternoon. As we have heard, the Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill seeks to do two things: first, to provide a basis upon which our justice system can continue to modernise, specifically through embracing digital technology; and, secondly, to establish a review process that supports learning in the aftermath of a domestic homicide or suicide.

I want to make a couple of points in the debate. On part 1, I note that justice systems value tradition; that is certainly no different in Scotland, where deeply rooted customs and formal rituals are highly regarded.

The Covid-19 pandemic obviously posed a monumental challenge for the justice system, but, in doing so, it created an opportunity to modernise the justice sector through greater use of digital technology. The bill seeks to make certain processes permanent, one of which is virtual attendance at court, which has already been examined in detail in the debate. At stage 1, as we have heard, there was strong support for that from victims organisations, which cited trauma-informed practice and giving victims agency.

However, the virtual attendance provision understandably raised a number of questions about scope, reliability of technology, appearance from custody and security—that is, ensuring that witnesses are not susceptible to any undue influence. The latter point was discussed earlier this afternoon. A key point that the cabinet secretary made is the default arrangement, whereby attendance should be in person. I agree that Pauline McNeill’s well-intended amendment 58, which proposed a requirement for closer supervision of anyone attending court virtually, would have had monumental resource implications and would have been completely unworkable.

I am pleased that, since the stage 1 debate, the Scottish Government has engaged with stakeholders, including the Lord Justice General, on virtual attendance. There is consensus that the current provisions have been in place for some time, that practitioners are familiar with them and that they work well, as currently framed.

I very much welcome the Government’s amendment 9, on the addition of charges to an indictment. I note the conditions that the cabinet secretary outlined and welcome that amendment.

I turn to part 2. Scotland does not currently have a statutory system to review deaths linked to domestic abuse, which means that the opportunity to learn lessons is lost.

During stage 1 scrutiny, the scope of the review process raised questions in so far as it is broader than the current definition of domestic abuse, as outlined in the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018. The Criminal Justice Committee heard conflicting views on whether the definition in the bill was too wide in scope and should only apply to incidents that would fall within the definition that is in the 2018 act. Strong arguments were made by Emma Forbes of the Crown Office and Dr Marsha Scott of Scottish Women’s Aid on that point.

On the other hand, it was recognised that many of those who experience domestic abuse do not report their abusers to the police. That is often an action of last resort, so a broader definition would create wider opportunities to learn through the review process and to prevent future deaths. I agree with the view that the impact of domestic abuse reaches beyond the relationships that are set out in the 2018 act definition and that the bill allows wider opportunities for learning and, ultimately, the prevention of future deaths.

I very much welcome the provisions in the bill. They reflect the fact that Scotland’s justice system is determined to modernise and move with the times. I ask members to support the bill this evening.

In the same item of business

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Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
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Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 16:09
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Maggie Chapman Green
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Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs, Angela Constance, to wind up the debate on behalf of the Scottish Government. 16:28
Angela Constance SNP
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Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention on that point?
Angela Constance SNP
I will indeed.
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The Presiding Officer NPA
That concludes the debate on the Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill at stage 3.