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Meeting of the Parliament 20 January 2026

20 Jan 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Macpherson, Ben SNP Edinburgh Northern and Leith Watch on SPTV

I am grateful to the Presiding Officer, all the Parliament staff and all MSP colleagues for their engagement with this bill and I am pleased to open this afternoon’s debate on the stage 3 amendments with an amendment that I hope a lot of members in this chamber will welcome and be interested in. The amendment gives effect to the commitment that I gave at stage 2 to consider further what, if anything, the Government could introduce in response to Pam Duncan-Glancy’s amendments 38 and 39 at stage 2.

My amendment 10 will require the Scottish ministers to create and maintain a national funding strategy for tertiary education, skills and apprenticeships in Scotland. The strategy will establish a foundation for our tertiary education and skills system to ensure that funding decisions are based on an even more robust understanding of the skills needs in Scotland, not only at the national level but across Scotland’s diverse local and regional contexts, which I know a number of members are—quite rightly—interested in, as is the Government.

Under amendment 10, the national funding strategy will have to explain Scotland’s skills needs and set out the Scottish ministers’ priorities for funding for further and higher education, national training programmes, apprenticeships and work-based learning. Additionally, the strategy will set out the outcomes that the Scottish ministers intend to achieve through that investment. For clarity, for universities, it will not direct funding towards provision specifically, as universities are autonomous bodies. I believe that amendment 10 will, overall, create a coherent strategic direction for Scotland that is better aligned with the skills needs that we have.

The Scottish ministers will be required to publish and update the strategy and, of course, lay it before Parliament. Publishing ministerial priorities and intended outcomes aids transparency and ensures that Parliament, stakeholders and the public can—rightly—scrutinise the Government’s policy direction on skills and the progress that it achieves. The requirement to report regularly will reinforce that.

Crucially, the preparation and revision of the strategy will be informed by meaningful consultation with a wide range of relevant stakeholders, including employers, trade unions and the bodies delivering education and skills training. The amendment does not set out an exhaustive list—for example, it is important, and it is my intention, that organisations and groups representing students and apprentices, and those with disabilities, will be included among those consulted, so that their important and specific needs are provided for in any funding strategy.

By ensuring that the strategy is rooted in evidence and shaped through collaboration and engagement, with clearly specified outcomes, amendment 10 strengthens the Government’s approach—and, therefore, the nation’s approach—to skills planning and to the funding of the tertiary education and skills system.

An important outcome, which we want to track and report on, is improved access to education and training opportunities for people with disabilities and other disadvantaged groups. I know that that is of particular interest to my colleague Jeremy Balfour.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings on the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill. In dealing with the amendme...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 1 is on a national funding strategy. Amendment 10, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendment 74.
The Minister for Higher and Further Education (Ben Macpherson) SNP
I am grateful to the Presiding Officer, all the Parliament staff and all MSP colleagues for their engagement with this bill and I am pleased to open this aft...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
The Conservative members are supportive of amendment 10, but I want to ask the minister whether it is the Scottish Government’s vision that it will make coll...
Ben Macpherson SNP
The importance of colleges in the delivery of apprenticeships, as Mr Briggs rightly emphasises, should not be underestimated. We want our colleges to take th...
Ben Macpherson SNP
The importance of colleges in the delivery of apprenticeships, as Mr Briggs rightly emphasises, should not be underestimated. We want our colleges to take th...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
The minister will know that Universities Scotland has expressed concern about the national funding strategy. It feels that the strategy risks encroaching on ...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I thank Willie Rennie for raising that important point and for the engagement that I have had with him on this matter, and I thank Universities Scotland for ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Is the minister in a position to set out when the Government will publish the responses to the consultation that it recently carried out on support for part-...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I thank Pam Duncan-Glancy for raising that point and highlighting that important consultation. I will take that away as an action and update her and the Parl...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I thank the minister for his constructive engagement on the strategy; we had several interesting conversations about its critical nature. I emphasise that, a...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Daniel Johnson Lab
I am happy to do so.
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am grateful to Daniel Johnson for taking the intervention and I apologise for being unable to intervene on the minister. Are we not confronted today with ...
Daniel Johnson Lab
Indeed, and I believe that the member has provided me with an answer—that is exactly the issue that we have. This strategy might be the right solution or str...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I thank members for their contributions. By way of response to what has just been said, I emphasise that the strategic work that will be taken forward throug...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I thank members for their contributions. By way of response to what has just been said, I emphasise that the strategic work that will be taken forward throug...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to group 2, which is on the general duty of the Scottish ministers to support delivery. Amendment 75, in the name of Miles Briggs, is grouped with am...
Miles Briggs Con
I start by thanking the Parliament’s legislative team for its support—to be quite honest, the team could also do with some apprentices, given the amount of l...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
The minister is to be commended for getting this bill to stage 3, because, frankly, he inherited a guddle and is having to work his way through it. Trying to...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
The minister is to be commended for getting this bill to stage 3, because, frankly, he inherited a guddle and is having to work his way through it. Trying to...
Stephen Kerr Con
That was a compliment, Presiding Officer—I do not know how I can reach higher on compliments than to say that the minister is reasonable. My amendment would...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I thank colleagues for explaining their amendments. The two amendments in this group revisit proposals that were previously brought forward at stage 2, and w...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I thank colleagues for explaining their amendments. The two amendments in this group revisit proposals that were previously brought forward at stage 2, and w...
Miles Briggs Con
We have not got to Willie Rennie’s amendment on the issue yet, but I think that the minister is almost making the argument against it, as it would introduce ...
Ben Macpherson SNP
We agreed to a number of amendments at stage 2 to ensure that the voice of business and industry is even more significant under the bill. Later in today’s pr...
Miles Briggs Con
Amendment 75 goes to the heart of some of the concerns that the Education, Children and Young People Committee has heard. Industries and businesses that are ...
Daniel Johnson Lab
The member is right to highlight the difference between SAAB and the proposed structures. Fundamentally, SAAB is about industry representatives coming forwar...
Miles Briggs Con
Yes, I agree with that. One of the missed opportunities is that the bill does not deal with regional skills shortages. On Friday, I was in Aberdeen, where I ...
Stephen Kerr Con
Will the member give way?