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Meeting of the Parliament 07 January 2026

07 Jan 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Non-domestic Rates
Johnson, Daniel Lab Edinburgh Southern Watch on SPTV

Not only has the minister exposed this afternoon the fact that he does not understand how the fiscal framework works, he is now exposing the fact that he does not understand how non-domestic rates work. Either the assessors are independent—and the valuations are arrived at independently—in which case, he can, absolutely, make observations about the scale of the impact, say what analysis has taken place and tell Rachael Hamilton the calculation of the number of small businesses that will be taken out of the small business bonus scheme—or they are not. This Is a nonsense.

Acknowledging the concern or the potential impact has nothing to do with the budget—absolutely, I would not expect those details to be released. The minister cannot seriously stand up and say that he can make no further comment other than to acknowledge the concerns. That is a nonsense.

It is true that Scotland has had the least generous business rate support in the UK. A licensed premises in Scotland with an RV of £35,000, entering the new year, faces a loss to the tune of £33,000 in support that it would have received if it were in England. Likewise, a premises with a rateable value of £75,000 would have received £80,000, cumulatively.

However, it is not just about those individual impacts. Sectorally, it is a form of taxation that is unfair. Retail and hospitality share a burden of 22 per cent of the total rates bill, despite the fact that their economic contribution is just 10 per cent. Hospitality has an 8 per cent share of the rates bill, despite the fact that its overall contribution to the economy is just 4 per cent. That tax is unfair not just with regard to the most recent valuation; it is fundamentally irrational and does not land fairly with businesses.

We often quote the Adam Smith principles of equity, certainty, convenience and economy. Fundamentally, equity means that taxation should be based on the revenue that is raised. It strikes me that, given the contrast in the shares that are contributed by each sector despite their economic contribution, that tax is unfair and overdue for reform. It is exactly that reform—ensuring that sectors pay their fair share—that Labour is committed to introducing when we form the next Government, after May.

I move amendment S6M-20295.2, to insert at end:

“; believes that the current business rates system is not fit for purpose, and calls on the Scottish Government to create a new system that levels the playing field between the high street and online giants, better incentivises investment, tackles empty properties and supports entrepreneurship.”

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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20295, in the name of Murdo Fraser, on stopping the Scottish Government’s business tax increases. 15:59
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Today, businesses across Scotland face an existential threat, with dramatic increases in rateable values as a result of the recent revaluation. The Scottish ...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Rental valuations in the Borders are really worrying for local businesses. Does Murdo Fraser agree that the methodology for those valuations is completely wr...
Murdo Fraser Con
I absolutely agree with the point that Rachael Hamilton makes. There are serious issues with the valuation methodology, which relies on a small and questiona...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (Ind) Ind
On that point, is Mr Fraser aware that the counterpart in England to the assessor is the Valuation Office Agency, and that the VOA has said that the method a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Mr Fraser, I can give you some of that time back.
Murdo Fraser Con
I am grateful to Mr Ewing for that intervention. It is a mystery why that should be the case about the assessors; perhaps, when he responds to the debate, th...
The Minister for Public Finance (Ivan McKee) SNP
I am pleased to open the debate for the Government. It is a hugely important topic, on which we have had extensive discussions with businesses, not just rece...
Rachael Hamilton Con
I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests. Has the Scottish Government done any analysis of the number of businesses that ...
Ivan McKee SNP
That will depend on the decisions that are taken with regard to the Scottish budget for next year. We do extensive analysis of the impact of the policies th...
Fergus Ewing Ind
Will the minister take an intervention?
Ivan McKee SNP
Will I get the time back, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you some time back.
Fergus Ewing Ind
I am grateful to the member for taking an intervention. If those increases go ahead, even if they are ameliorated with a modest level of relief, thousands of...
Ivan McKee SNP
The Scottish Government does extensive analysis of the impact of all our fiscal policies. The point about engagement with businesses is hugely important. Ou...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Ivan McKee SNP
I will if I have time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you some time back, but not all of it.
Stephen Kerr Con
We are three minutes and 46 seconds into his speech and the minister has not addressed a single one of the concerns that were raised by Murdo Fraser. Is he g...
Ivan McKee SNP
I cannot do right for doing wrong. I have taken three interventions in order to have a proper debate, and I am making progress through my remarks. If members...
Stephen Kerr Con
Still no answer.
Ivan McKee SNP
This is an important point—listen and learn something. Decisions on non-domestic rates policy for 2026-27, including rates and reliefs, are considered in the...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests. What we have just heard from the minister is quite extraordinary. It is extraordinary be...
Ivan McKee SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Daniel Johnson Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Minister, please be brief.
Ivan McKee SNP
I know that the policy of the UK Labour Government is to leak everything in its budget in advance, then publish the full budget online before the speech has ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Minister, could you resume your seat for a second? I can allow a little latitude ofr reactions to what is being said. I will not, however, tolerate the shou...
Ivan McKee SNP
We do things differently in this Parliament—of course, with due respect to processes, procedures and the Presiding Officer. I do not know whether Daniel Joh...
Daniel Johnson Lab
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