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Meeting of the Parliament 06 January 2026

06 Jan 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Swimming Pools

I wish you, Presiding Officer, and colleagues across the chamber a happy new year from a snowy Shetland.

I thank the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee for its work on this petition. I am pleased to speak in this debate to recognise the value of swimming pools and the call that financial relief is necessary to help to keep pools open.

I also thank Scottish Swimming for providing its briefing and for the work that it does all year round to promote swimming for everyone, which has physical and mental health benefits as well as being a good all-round sporting activity. Those were some of the positive benefits that were highlighted in the 2023 Scottish Liberal Democrat conference debate on swimming and the primary school curriculum.

Swimming provision and equal access to learning to swim is also important for reasons of safety in and around waters. It will come as no surprise that an islander like me is keen to ensure that every child is given the opportunity to learn to swim. It is a lifelong skill that is best learned as a child and one that is not just for people who live in and around island and coastal communities. With rivers and lochs across Scotland that are attractive and accessible from cities and towns, the dangers of water to the inexperienced are not always obvious.

Swimming and other water-related activities mean that more people are making their way to waters for fun, health and wellbeing reasons. As an aside, quite why swimming is referred to as “wild swimming” is a mystery to me. Like others of my generation in Shetland, I learned to swim in the cold North Sea, and it was and still is simply called swimming. I have close friends who are lifelong sea swimmers all year round, though I have not been tempted to join them.

This debate, however, is about the value of swimming pools. In an era of cuts to public services, it might seem to some that funding swimming pools is a luxury that we can live without. I do not share that view, for some of the reasons that I have already mentioned.

I also have a personal reason for ensuring that people have access to public swimming pools. I know at first hand what can happen if you cannot swim. As a child, I accidentally fell into the harbour at Lerwick. Thankfully, I was spotted by a quick-thinking fisherman, who hauled me out. It could have been a different story—I could have been a drowning statistic. To this day, I am not a confident swimmer.

Scottish Swimming indicates that the number of public swimming pools in Scotland is reducing. Of the 295 pools, 122 are more than 38 years old and are therefore nearing the end of their lifespan. According to Swim England, the average lifespan of a pool is 38 years. Based on that age model, Scotland could have a net loss of more than 150 pools by 2040. The estimated investment that is needed for four new pools a year is around £40 million.

In my constituency, swimming pools are run by the Shetland Recreational Trust, which has a network of eight pools across the islands. The two most northerly in the network and, indeed, in the United Kingdom, were both opened in 1988, which takes them to the 38-year lifespan this year.

Increased running costs, as other members have said, are affecting the sustainability of swimming pools across the country, and the biggest impact on those running costs is the cost of energy. It is suggested that an estimated £68 million a year is needed to power Scotland’s pools, though with energy efficiencies and retrofitting with sustainable technologies, around £5 million a year could be saved.

To conclude, supporting our public swimming pools is a lifelong investment in people’s wellbeing and life-saving skills.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20185, in the name of Jackson Carlaw, and lodged on behalf of the Citizen Participation and Public Petiti...
Jackson Carlaw (Eastwood) (Con) Con
How exciting it is, on the first day back, to be able to bring this debate to the chamber. I begin by introducing petition PE2018, which was lodged by Helen ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
While I acknowledge the point that Mr Carlaw narrates on behalf of COSLA, does he accept that last year’s budget gave a real-terms increase to local governme...
Jackson Carlaw Con
The point that COSLA and others made to us is that, with so many different areas being—appropriately—ring fenced, the capacity for discretionary action by co...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
Jackson Carlaw mentioned pool closures. I am sure that he will be encouraged to learn that the Alloa Leisure Bowl—if he ever saw it, he would realise how ina...
Jackson Carlaw Con
I have to say to Mr Brown that that was not part of the extensive evidence that the committee heard. All who gave evidence talked of the pressures on funding...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
The committee convener makes a powerful point about life saving, particularly in an educational context—teaching children the confidence to swim not just in ...
Jackson Carlaw Con
That was very much the view that the committee took and is taken by some councils—albeit increasingly fewer, because of the pressures and considerations that...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Jackson Carlaw Con
They demand a clear plan for the whole of Scotland and action to implement such a plan. In the absence of support, swimming pools across the country will fi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that we are already running a little behind schedule, so I will have to keep members to their speaking time allocations. 16:35
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
I acknowledge the motion that has been lodged, and I thank Jackson Carlaw, the committee convener, for setting out his case with his usual rhetorical flouris...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
The cabinet secretary has said that swimming saves health and social care money and promotes wellbeing. However, Jedburgh and Selkirk pools are being shut an...
Neil Gray SNP
We have passed over significant Barnett consequentials, as I set out in my intervention on Mr Carlaw, in an increase to local government funding, which I wil...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Colleagues across the chamber are well aware that I have been a very strong advocate for the aims outlined in the petition for a very long time. I very much ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Neil Bibby—up to five minutes, please. 16:48
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
A happy new year to you, Deputy Presiding Officer, and to everyone across the chamber. Scottish Labour very much welcomes the debate, and I thank Jackson Ca...
Neil Gray SNP
Will the member give way?
Neil Bibby Lab
The cabinet secretary can point to the last financial year, but his Government had £5 billion extra from the Labour UK Government, so he could hardly have cu...
Neil Gray SNP
Will the member give way?
Neil Bibby Lab
I am limited for time, cabinet secretary. It is not just about that £5 billion extra. As I told the petitions committee last year, when the Scottish Governm...
Neil Gray SNP
Will the member give way?
Neil Bibby Lab
I will give way if it is brief. I am limited for time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Briefly, cabinet secretary.
Neil Gray SNP
We just heard from Mr Carlaw about evidence from COSLA on the need to ensure that we do not have restrictive ring fencing of funding. I have just set out the...
Neil Bibby Lab
I do not know whether the cabinet secretary was listening before I took his intervention. I just said that, last year, you had £5 billion extra from the Labo...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Please speak through the chair.
Neil Bibby Lab
It is harder for people to access swimming pools and lessons just now because, for years, the Scottish Government has made it harder for councils to fund the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Before I call the next speaker, I advise members that we already have a later decision time. We are quite far behind the allocated time for this debate, so m...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
I thank the committee for the work that it has done and, of course, the petitioners for raising the issue. I will mention two particular pools and two par...