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Meeting of the Parliament 06 January 2026

06 Jan 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Swimming Pools
Gray, Neil SNP Airdrie and Shotts Watch on SPTV

We have passed over significant Barnett consequentials, as I set out in my intervention on Mr Carlaw, in an increase to local government funding, which I will come to in more detail. Those particular decisions need to be taken locally; I am more than happy to consider any approaches on individual cases, but they are for local decision makers to take forward.

Public leisure facilities play a crucial role in tackling loneliness. Activities such as aquatic exercise classes for older adults not only improve balance and strength but foster social connections, which often extend past the pool to the cafe and the wider community.

For children and young people, swimming pools offer more than just exercise. They offer the chance to learn a life-saving skill, as Mr Carlaw and Mr Sweeney have set out. Pools build confidence and a sense of achievement. We believe that every child should have the opportunity to learn to swim. It can save lives and lead to a lifetime of enjoyment through swimming, as Mr Scott highlighted in his evidence. However, we know that there are significant inequalities in access to swimming lessons, which is why we funded swimming pilots in partnership with sportscotland and Scottish Swimming. The pilots demonstrated that the school swimming framework is the most effective model for enabling children to learn to swim, particularly in addressing poverty-related barriers to access.

Scottish Swimming and Scottish Water recently marked 10 years of the learn to swim programme, which is a joint initiative delivered by 38 local aquatic partners. Progress has been remarkable: participation has grown from 53,000 people in 2017 to more than 83,000 in 2024. Even more encouraging is the increase in participation by children from Scotland’s more deprived communities, which has grown from 10 per cent in 2018 to 16 per cent today. That is a real and measurable impact, widening access and delivering social value. The success of the programme is a testament to the dedication of Scottish Swimming, Scottish Water and local partners. Their collective efforts deserve recognition, especially given the setbacks during the pandemic that affected water safety attainment and swimming instruction.

We also acknowledge the challenges faced by operators of sports and leisure facilities, first during the pandemic and then through the energy crisis, which created significant financial pressures. Rising operational, energy, building and transport costs have placed real strain on resources, making it harder to heat pools and buildings and maintain infrastructure. Although the funding of local sports and leisure facilities, including pools, is the responsibility of local authorities, we recognise the importance of support. Our policy on local authority spending is to allow authorities the financial freedom to operate independently. As such, the vast majority of funding is provided by means of a block grant.

As I set out to Mr Carlaw, the 2025-26 budget recognises the importance of local government and provides local authorities with a record funding package of more than £15.1 billion in 2025-26, which is a real-terms increase of 5.5 per cent. The Government has made a significant commitment to Scotland’s sporting future. Since April 2007, sportscotland has invested more than £211 million to help sports clubs, community groups, local authorities, sports governing bodies and other organisations in delivering new and upgraded sporting facilities across the country. That investment has helped to create spaces where people can come together, be active and thrive.

However, we understand that significant challenges remain. That is why we commissioned sportscotland to undertake a comprehensive review of the condition and long-term investment needs of Scotland’s sporting infrastructure. The report will be published shortly and will sit alongside the 2023 swimming pool review, providing vital information to help us make informed decisions collectively. The 2023 review highlighted the ageing pool estate and the significant energy improvements that will be required if we are to ensure that facilities remain sustainable. The review’s findings underscore the need for a collaborative approach that brings together Government, local authorities, other partners and communities to secure the future of our sporting infrastructure.

I hope that today’s debate will spark ideas and inspire collaborative solutions that can support both the operators who keep facilities running and, critically, the users who depend on them.

16:41  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20185, in the name of Jackson Carlaw, and lodged on behalf of the Citizen Participation and Public Petiti...
Jackson Carlaw (Eastwood) (Con) Con
How exciting it is, on the first day back, to be able to bring this debate to the chamber. I begin by introducing petition PE2018, which was lodged by Helen ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
While I acknowledge the point that Mr Carlaw narrates on behalf of COSLA, does he accept that last year’s budget gave a real-terms increase to local governme...
Jackson Carlaw Con
The point that COSLA and others made to us is that, with so many different areas being—appropriately—ring fenced, the capacity for discretionary action by co...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
Jackson Carlaw mentioned pool closures. I am sure that he will be encouraged to learn that the Alloa Leisure Bowl—if he ever saw it, he would realise how ina...
Jackson Carlaw Con
I have to say to Mr Brown that that was not part of the extensive evidence that the committee heard. All who gave evidence talked of the pressures on funding...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
The committee convener makes a powerful point about life saving, particularly in an educational context—teaching children the confidence to swim not just in ...
Jackson Carlaw Con
That was very much the view that the committee took and is taken by some councils—albeit increasingly fewer, because of the pressures and considerations that...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Jackson Carlaw Con
They demand a clear plan for the whole of Scotland and action to implement such a plan. In the absence of support, swimming pools across the country will fi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that we are already running a little behind schedule, so I will have to keep members to their speaking time allocations. 16:35
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
I acknowledge the motion that has been lodged, and I thank Jackson Carlaw, the committee convener, for setting out his case with his usual rhetorical flouris...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
The cabinet secretary has said that swimming saves health and social care money and promotes wellbeing. However, Jedburgh and Selkirk pools are being shut an...
Neil Gray SNP
We have passed over significant Barnett consequentials, as I set out in my intervention on Mr Carlaw, in an increase to local government funding, which I wil...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Colleagues across the chamber are well aware that I have been a very strong advocate for the aims outlined in the petition for a very long time. I very much ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Neil Bibby—up to five minutes, please. 16:48
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
A happy new year to you, Deputy Presiding Officer, and to everyone across the chamber. Scottish Labour very much welcomes the debate, and I thank Jackson Ca...
Neil Gray SNP
Will the member give way?
Neil Bibby Lab
The cabinet secretary can point to the last financial year, but his Government had £5 billion extra from the Labour UK Government, so he could hardly have cu...
Neil Gray SNP
Will the member give way?
Neil Bibby Lab
I am limited for time, cabinet secretary. It is not just about that £5 billion extra. As I told the petitions committee last year, when the Scottish Governm...
Neil Gray SNP
Will the member give way?
Neil Bibby Lab
I will give way if it is brief. I am limited for time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Briefly, cabinet secretary.
Neil Gray SNP
We just heard from Mr Carlaw about evidence from COSLA on the need to ensure that we do not have restrictive ring fencing of funding. I have just set out the...
Neil Bibby Lab
I do not know whether the cabinet secretary was listening before I took his intervention. I just said that, last year, you had £5 billion extra from the Labo...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Please speak through the chair.
Neil Bibby Lab
It is harder for people to access swimming pools and lessons just now because, for years, the Scottish Government has made it harder for councils to fund the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Before I call the next speaker, I advise members that we already have a later decision time. We are quite far behind the allocated time for this debate, so m...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
I thank the committee for the work that it has done and, of course, the petitioners for raising the issue. I will mention two particular pools and two par...