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Meeting of the Parliament 20 May 2025

20 May 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill

I will take a moment to reflect on the importance of the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill and the hard work that has gone into bringing it to this point, which includes engagement with members across the Parliament. I thank everybody, including the many members who have spoken today, for all their engagement.

The bill is a significant step forward in ensuring that Scotland’s legal services are accessible, accountable and of the highest quality. The changes that we are debating today are about not just regulatory frameworks or the legal process, but the people of Scotland—the people who rely on legal services and the professionals who serve them.

We are crafting a legal services system that is robust and also flexible, transparent and equipped to meet the needs of a modern society. I am particularly pleased that we have been able to introduce changes that will enhance transparency for consumers, enhance access to justice and create a framework that fosters both public confidence and professional respect. The bill empowers the Lord President, bringing much-needed oversight, while ensuring that the legal profession in Scotland continues to uphold the high standards that it is known for.

I acknowledge that the bill is not the end of the journey but rather the beginning of an on-going process of refinement and improvement. We have created a foundation for a regulatory framework that can adapt to future changes, and it will be vital that we remain open to further improvement as the legal landscape evolves, including during the implementation of the eventual act by secondary legislation.

I am confident that, with this bill, we are setting Scotland’s legal services on a path to greater fairness, accessibility and accountability for years to come. Over the course of today’s debate we have heard a range of important contributions from members on this critical piece of proposed legislation, and I will take a moment to reflect on some of them.

First, I thank Scottish Labour, the Scottish Greens and the Scottish Lib Dems for all their engagement and for backing the bill today. I have to say, however, that I am really disappointed in the Scottish Conservatives for not supporting the bill at stage 3, and I am confused by their stance.

I think that consumer groups would be extremely concerned by Tess White stating that the independent regulator should be regulated by the head of the judiciary, the Lord President. For clarity, I note that Esther Roberton sought accountability outwith the judiciary. It is disappointing that the Scottish Conservatives do not appear to have a clear understanding of the history of all the work that has gone into the bill or of the asks of consumers or the legal profession. That is very sad.

I will reflect on a few other contributions. The lead committee recognised the differing views of the legal profession and consumer groups on the question of regulatory reform, as well as the fact that there is broad support for the improvements that will be introduced by the bill. As members will note, I have sought to work in a collaborative way with members and stakeholders, considering their concerns and making concessions where I consider that it is sensible. I believe that the bill provides balance and delivers key priorities to stakeholders.

Members have the opportunity today to vote on a bill that will reshape how legal services are delivered for, and experienced by, professionals and consumers alike. Our goal is clear: a legal services system that works for everyone. I therefore ask members to support the motion in my name and to pass the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-17584, in the name of Siobhian Brown, on the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill at stage 3. I w...
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP
I am pleased that we have completed stage 3 of the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill with so much consensus on the final amendments to the bill, j...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
There is huge concern that consumers have been forgotten in the bill. What is your view on that?
Siobhian Brown SNP
I know that Tess White has become a member of the committee only recently. Throughout the bill’s passage, it has been incredibly difficult to find a balance ...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank all the individuals and organisations who have supported and contributed to the parliamentary passage of the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) ...
Siobhian Brown SNP
Does Ms White appreciate the history of the bill and how matters have progressed since 2010? If the bill is not passed today, we will go back to scratch and ...
Tess White Con
When the bill process started, there was an unacceptable situation, which the legal profession reported directly to Scottish ministers. It was absolutely abs...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Tess White spoke about the challenges that the bill presents, particularly with regard to the independence of the judiciary. However, I am not sure whether s...
Tess White Con
We are fully supportive of having an independent regulator. The regulators and the judiciary were fundamentally opposed to the approach of having a single in...
Siobhian Brown SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Paul O’Kane Lab
Will Tess White give way?
Tess White Con
I will take the minister’s intervention first.
Siobhian Brown SNP
I am slightly confused by Ms White’s contribution. She said that the Scottish Conservatives would fully support having an independent regulator, but then she...
Tess White Con
I am saying that, when the bill process started, the Scottish Government wanted the judiciary to report directly to ministers, which was absolutely absurd. W...
Paul O’Kane Lab
On the theme that the member has raised, the judiciary’s concern was about maintaining its independence in the processing of complaints. Does she envisage th...
Tess White Con
The independent regulator should report directly to the Lord President, definitely not the Scottish Government. It is to the minister’s credit that minister...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to speak in the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour and confirm that we will support the bill at decision time this evening. As we have heard ...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
On behalf of the Scottish Greens, I welcome the bill and thank all those who helped to bring it—at last—to stage 3. I thank my committee colleagues, the cler...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I noted the concerns that were expressed by Paul O’Kane earlier about the amount of time for which we have been considering the bill and debating it this aft...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call on the minister to wind up the debate. You have a very generous four minutes, minister. 17:52
Siobhian Brown SNP
I will take a moment to reflect on the importance of the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill and the hard work that has gone into bringing it to thi...
Paul O’Kane Lab
I am aware that the minister is in her peroration, but I am keen to get some clarity on the issue of amendments that we debated, particularly those around sa...
Siobhian Brown SNP
I thank Paul O’Kane for his question and for reminding me to get to that point, because I might have missed it. There are consequences to amendment 42 not b...
The Presiding Officer NPA
That concludes the debate on the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill at stage 3.