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Meeting of the Parliament 20 May 2025

20 May 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill
White, Tess Con North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I thank all the individuals and organisations who have supported and contributed to the parliamentary passage of the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill. I also thank the minister, who engaged constructively with members ahead of stage 3.

I appreciate that, for many stakeholders, the bill is long overdue, and I hope that my amendment 137, which secures a review of the act, will reduce the timescales for change in the future.

It is clear that the current system, which covers entry to the profession, professional practice, complaints and financial compliance, is not fit for purpose. Much of the relevant legislation is more than 40 years old, but the legal services market is constantly evolving. However, the corresponding regulatory regime is clunky and inflexible.

I am a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, which has been hearing about huge issues with access to justice. The whole system is frustrating for regulatory bodies, but it is often the consumer who bears the brunt of its failings. The committee has heard that, sometimes, consumers have to try 100 solicitors before they find one who will act on their behalf. The system is crying out for modernisation.

Scottish Conservatives believe that the bill truly represents a missed opportunity, which is why we will vote against it at decision time. In the brief time that is allocated to me, I want to explain our reasoning carefully, because I understand that the legal profession has expressed strong feelings on the subject. However, it is vital that the consumer's voice is heard during the process.

There are two key issues. The first is that the bill fails to consolidate the existing legislative landscape into a single act, which the Law Society of Scotland called for in order to simplify that fragmentation. At stage 2, the bill was the most heavily amended in the Scottish Parliament’s lifetime.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-17584, in the name of Siobhian Brown, on the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill at stage 3. I w...
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP
I am pleased that we have completed stage 3 of the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill with so much consensus on the final amendments to the bill, j...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
There is huge concern that consumers have been forgotten in the bill. What is your view on that?
Siobhian Brown SNP
I know that Tess White has become a member of the committee only recently. Throughout the bill’s passage, it has been incredibly difficult to find a balance ...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank all the individuals and organisations who have supported and contributed to the parliamentary passage of the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) ...
Siobhian Brown SNP
Does Ms White appreciate the history of the bill and how matters have progressed since 2010? If the bill is not passed today, we will go back to scratch and ...
Tess White Con
When the bill process started, there was an unacceptable situation, which the legal profession reported directly to Scottish ministers. It was absolutely abs...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Tess White spoke about the challenges that the bill presents, particularly with regard to the independence of the judiciary. However, I am not sure whether s...
Tess White Con
We are fully supportive of having an independent regulator. The regulators and the judiciary were fundamentally opposed to the approach of having a single in...
Siobhian Brown SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Paul O’Kane Lab
Will Tess White give way?
Tess White Con
I will take the minister’s intervention first.
Siobhian Brown SNP
I am slightly confused by Ms White’s contribution. She said that the Scottish Conservatives would fully support having an independent regulator, but then she...
Tess White Con
I am saying that, when the bill process started, the Scottish Government wanted the judiciary to report directly to ministers, which was absolutely absurd. W...
Paul O’Kane Lab
On the theme that the member has raised, the judiciary’s concern was about maintaining its independence in the processing of complaints. Does she envisage th...
Tess White Con
The independent regulator should report directly to the Lord President, definitely not the Scottish Government. It is to the minister’s credit that minister...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to speak in the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour and confirm that we will support the bill at decision time this evening. As we have heard ...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
On behalf of the Scottish Greens, I welcome the bill and thank all those who helped to bring it—at last—to stage 3. I thank my committee colleagues, the cler...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I noted the concerns that were expressed by Paul O’Kane earlier about the amount of time for which we have been considering the bill and debating it this aft...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call on the minister to wind up the debate. You have a very generous four minutes, minister. 17:52
Siobhian Brown SNP
I will take a moment to reflect on the importance of the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill and the hard work that has gone into bringing it to thi...
Paul O’Kane Lab
I am aware that the minister is in her peroration, but I am keen to get some clarity on the issue of amendments that we debated, particularly those around sa...
Siobhian Brown SNP
I thank Paul O’Kane for his question and for reminding me to get to that point, because I might have missed it. There are consequences to amendment 42 not b...
The Presiding Officer NPA
That concludes the debate on the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill at stage 3.