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Meeting of the Parliament 16 December 2025 [Draft]

16 Dec 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill
Grahame, Christine SNP Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale Watch on SPTV

I am delighted to speak in this debate in support of my colleague Maurice Golden’s bill, and not only because I was the additional member in charge of the bill—that is a smart title but, to be honest, I was not actually required to do anything. I know how much determination is needed to introduce a member’s bill, having successfully introduced two of my own.

During the early stages of the bill, the Law Society of Scotland stated:

“Theft is already an offence under the common law, defined as ‘to appropriate moveable, corporeal things belonging to another person, without the consent of that person, where the accused knows that those things belongs to another and intends to deprive the owner of their use permanently, indefinitely or (in certain circumstances) temporarily’. This offence can be used to prosecute dog theft incidents.”

For balance, I will also quote the Law Society’s comments that

“Judges in Scotland have the tools to assess and sanction appropriately dog theft offences, considering the harm that such behaviours may cause to the animal’s welfare and the dog’s owners and family.”

I recall from my days in practice as a solicitor that, when a relationship broke down, although issues with the monetary assets could be resolved, there was often a fight about the family dog, and there were even circumstances in which the family dog was used in a coercive manner.

The rub is the concept of a dog as a “corporeal thing”. It may break our hearts to have a valuable or sentimental piece of property stolen but, in my book, that by no means equates to having a family dog stolen. We have moved a long way from viewing animals—including pets—as property.

There is also specific reference in the bill to “assistance dogs” and “helper” dogs. The heartbreak may be the same or be of a more professional nature if those dogs are stolen, so that classification is important. I welcome the penalties and the aggravation that would be introduced if it is a helper dog, which helps children and adults in their daily lives, that is stolen. Helper dogs can also be used to detect drug smuggling and explosives, and can possibly alert individuals to the presence of cancer. Therefore, an aggravation of the crime in those circumstances—and that is by no means an exhaustive list—would be very welcome.

I appreciate that the possibility of recording dog theft as a specific crime may offer challenges, but those are not insurmountable—I will leave it at that.

I will conclude my speech with a few words about my very late dog of 40 years ago, Roostie—my delightful, kindly Irish setter. She let the cat sleep on top of her—for her body warmth, not his. My sons, who are now fathers themselves, used her as a pillow for comfort as well as for fun. She dragged us out for walks in the pouring rain and we felt the better for it. She was never—ever—property or a “corporeal thing.” Her impact on my life can be measured by the fact that, 40 years on, she is keen in my memories. She taught my sons how to behave and respect her, just as she taught me how to be a good and responsible owner. The reciprocated love and affection of a dog is invaluable.

I will briefly parachute in another point: the festive season is not the time to buy a dog or a puppy, and, when people buy a dog or a puppy, they should do so only from a reputable source.

Going back to my script, I also agree that it would be a good idea in the next parliamentary session to introduce a consolidation bill on all laws that relate to dogs.

On that note, again, I congratulate Maurice Golden. As a postscript, I say that I know that the member is not seeking re-election. He will be a great loss to this place.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20167, in the name of Maurice Golden, on the Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill at stage 3. I invite those members...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I am grateful to all those who have assisted with the Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill to get it to the point at which the Parliament will vote on it at decision ti...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Siobhian Brown to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Government. 15:22
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP
I thank Maurice Golden for his constructive engagement throughout the bill’s parliamentary journey, and I thank the non-Government bills unit for its work an...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Tim Eagle to open on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. 15:26
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I do not intend to speak for very long today, but I begin by thanking Maurice Golden, whose dedication in introducing this member’s bill and steering it thro...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Maurice Golden on introducing the bill; it is not easy to bring a member’s bill to this stage. I thank committee staff and those working in t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Ariane Burgess to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Greens. 15:32
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
I am grateful to Maurice Golden—and the officials who have supported him—for the work that he has put into this member’s bill, and for introducing legislatio...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 15:35
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to speak in this debate in support of my colleague Maurice Golden’s bill, and not only because I was the additional member in charge of the bi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to closing speeches. 15:39
Ariane Burgess Green
As we close this debate, I want to return to the human impact. When a dog is stolen, it is not just a theft. A family member is taken, routines are shattered...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
This small but important piece of legislation is about animal rights and animal welfare, but it is also about human rights. It is about our values, our princ...
Christine Grahame SNP
Will the member give way on that point?
Richard Leonard Lab
I happen to think that it is a useful component in any legal proceedings, because it helps to inform sentencing decisions and brings to our legal system some...
Christine Grahame SNP
Will the member give way?
Richard Leonard Lab
But I understand that Government support for the bill was conditional on this being dropped, and Maurice Golden is hemmed in by those dreaded words: “politic...
Christine Grahame SNP
Will the member give way?
Richard Leonard Lab
Yeah, ok.
Christine Grahame SNP
That was a bit graceless, Mr Leonard. I am happy to be corrected, but I do not think that a victim statement influences the penalty at the end of the day. I...
Richard Leonard Lab
For me, it is about a principle—about whether the impact on the victim is a matter of record. I think that it should be and it should be taken into account. ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Jamie Halcro Johnston to close on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. 15:49
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I had the opportunity back in October to speak in support of the bill and in recognition of the hard work of my colleague Maurice Golden and others at stage ...
Siobhian Brown SNP
I thank all members for their contributions to the debate. As I made clear in my opening remarks, I have welcomed the constructive and helpful meetings tha...
Christine Grahame SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Siobhian Brown SNP
Can I get the time back, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
If the intervention is brief.
Christine Grahame SNP
I honestly do not know the answer to this question. As I understand it, a victim impact statement does not do anything to the sentencing at the end of the da...
Joe FitzPatrick (Dundee City West) (SNP) SNP
Leonard.