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Meeting of the Parliament 10 December 2025

10 Dec 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Social Security Spending
Stewart, Alexander Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I am running out of time.

If that decision does not sum up the SNP Government’s high-tax, high-welfare approach to government, I do not know what does.

Having spent years complaining about the previous UK Government’s approach to benefits, the SNP is now discovering that it is not as easy as it looks. In 2017, the estimated cost of setting up the Scottish Government’s in-house benefits agency, Social Security Scotland, was £300 million and, by 2023, that had blossomed to £700 million.

The Government refuses to learn any lessons and, judging by Shirley-Anne Somerville’s amendment, that will not change any time soon. The amendment not only ignores the £2 billion spending gap, but calls for the UK Labour Government to increase the UK’s benefits bill even further.

The Labour amendment at least acknowledges the funding gap that exists. However, it also celebrates Labour’s decision to remove the two-child limit by increasing taxes on working people. We therefore cannot support the amendment.

Scotland’s benefits system should be an essential safety net for those who need assistance. We can all agree on that principle. The Scottish Conservatives believe that this system must be fair and affordable. We must ensure that the spiralling costs are not balanced on the backs of hard-working Scottish taxpayers. That is where we differ from all other parties in the chamber, because the left-wing consensus does not want to accept those principles. The scale of the problem is such that it is too big for the SNP Government to ignore. Instead of burying its head in the sand, this is the time for the Government to be honest with Scottish taxpayers about how it will fix the mess that it has created.

I move,

That the Parliament believes that social security spending by the Scottish Government and its future social security spending commitments are unsustainable; notes the report published by Audit Scotland in September 2025, Adult Disability Payment; further notes that the Audit Scotland report highlights a “funding gap for devolved social security spending of £2.0 billion by 2029/30”; calls on the Scottish Government to explain why, according to Audit Scotland, it “has not yet set out a detailed strategy for how it will manage the forecast gap between social security funding and spending”; believes that raising taxes in order to remove the limit on the child element of Universal Credit was not the right priority for either the Scottish Government or the UK Government, and calls on the Scottish Government to use the money that it will save, as a result of the UK Government's decision, to lower costs for people across Scotland by instead cutting income tax.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20056, in the name of Alexander Stewart, on controlling the rising benefits bill in Scotland. I invite me...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Once again, it falls to the Scottish Conservatives to highlight the ever-increasing benefits bill that Scottish taxpayers face. My motion highlights the unsu...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
Would the member like to outline which devolved benefits he would take away and how he would do that?
Alexander Stewart Con
We need to have a discussion about universality in benefits. We have already spoken about the SNP’s light touch when it comes to keeping records on benefits,...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
Can the member tell the chamber whether the Scottish Conservatives voted for or against all of the secondary legislation that built in the eligibility for AD...
Alexander Stewart Con
I think that you will find that the Conservatives did vote for it, but you have to understand that your light-touch approach, which I will come on to speak a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Always speak through the chair.
Alexander Stewart Con
We will speak about that light-touch approach and we can discuss the number of people who, as part of the benefits process, have been receiving funds in erro...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Alexander Stewart Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Shirley-Anne Somerville to speak to and move amendment S6M-20056.3. 14:55
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Does the cabinet secretary recognise that there is considerable public support for the two-child cap, because it is seen to be about the incentives that are ...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I thank Liz Smith for her question, but it is important to recognise that, contrary to some of the incorrect narratives that are currently in play, the Resol...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
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Craig Hoy Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
If Mr Hoy had wanted more time, he should have given the whole afternoon to this debate, and I would have been delighted to discuss the issue with him in fur...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I begin by addressing the framing of the debate. Titling the motion “Controlling the Rising Benefits Bill” is not just unhelpful; it misunderstands the purpo...
Liz Smith Con
The debate ought to be about incentives. It is absolutely fine that the current benefit system provides for those who are most in need. The issue is the syst...
Claire Baker Lab
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Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will Claire Baker give way on that point?
Claire Baker Lab
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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
Our social security system embodies the duty that we have to one another. It provides a best start grant when a new Scot is born and the Scottish child payme...
Craig Hoy Con
Does Maggie Chapman accept that the interplay between universal credit and the Scottish child payment is resulting in some people choosing not to work additi...
Maggie Chapman Green
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Maggie Chapman Green
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Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
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Stephen Kerr Con
Will Willie Rennie give way?