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Meeting of the Parliament 09 December 2025

09 Dec 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Veterans and Armed Forces Community
Mountain, Edward Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I thank the minister for giving Parliament the opportunity to have a debate on veterans, and I thank Susie Hamilton for the work that she has done over the past year. I am delighted to say that I, too, welcome the work that the Scottish Government has undertaken to help our veterans—the veterans who stood by us.

I do not need to remind Parliament that national service stopped being a requirement in 1960 and that the last national serviceman probably left the services in 1963. Many of us do not know how many veterans are out there. We probably do not know that a person we are talking to is actually a veteran until we see them wearing a medal at a remembrance Sunday parade, whether it be a campaign medal or a medal for valour.

We could probably all put our hands on our hearts and name some of the conflicts that our soldiers have been involved in since the second world war. We could probably reel off Northern Ireland, the Falklands, the first Gulf war, the second Gulf war, Afghanistan and probably a few others. However, do we really know the extent to which our armed services have been involved in those conflicts and where they have been deployed? I can list a few. We have been involved in 45 official conflicts and many others besides. We could talk about Libya, Sierra Leone, Yugoslavia, Belize, Gambia, Angola, Oman, Tanzania, Uganda, Cyprus, Malaya, Kenya, Aden and many more. I will not list them all, but there is a huge amount of them.

To my mind, we owe a debt of gratitude to those veterans who stood by us, fought on our behalf and, when they were not fighting, helped to keep the peace in the places that I have mentioned. They allowed us to rest easy in our beds at night, so we owe them the ability to have a bed themselves. After the 1914-18 war, we gave many returning soldiers smallholdings across the country to allow them to come back to a house and to farm the land. I think that that was a great idea. Over the past 110 years, Veterans Housing Scotland, which we know a lot about, has been helping veterans to obtain housing.

I remind members that, currently, about 176,000 people across Scotland have served our country. Fifty per cent of those are over 65 years of age. In my area, in Moray, we have a high proportion of veterans—about 9 per cent of the population. In Highland, the proportion is slightly less, at 5 per cent. Those veterans play a huge part in society. Their great contribution has been recognised in the NHS and Police Scotland reports that we have read, which recognise that veterans bring so much to us.

Businesses across the country recognise the skills that veterans bring, whether in problem solving or in being worldly wise when they look to address problems. In my opinion, we need to encourage veterans to move to and settle in Scotland, and to help them do that. That is why the Conservatives have lodged an amendment that seeks to increase the availability of housing for veterans who move back here.

In the reports that she has presented the Scottish Veterans Commissioner makes the point that we need to do more on local housing strategy. In the amendment lodged on behalf of my party, I propose that the Scottish Government should talk to the UK Government to see whether any armed forces married quarters could be made available to retiring service personnel to facilitate them moving back to Scotland, possibly at a reduced rent for a period of up to a year, so that they can bring their skills back here and we can seek to use them.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20050, in the name of Graeme Dey, on support for the veterans and armed forces community in Scotland. I i...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
It is my pleasure to present the Scottish Government’s ninth annual update to the Parliament on our support for Scotland’s veterans and armed forces communit...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Does the minister agree with me and Forces Children Scotland about the challenge that children of service people face in this transition? Does he agree that ...
Graeme Dey SNP
Martin Whitfield makes a reasonable point. I go back to the point that I was making when I took Martin Whitfield’s intervention. Work is under way to intens...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, can you move the motion?
Graeme Dey SNP
I move, That the Parliament acknowledges and recognises the importance of Scotland’s veterans and Armed Forces community and greatly values the significant ...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I thank the minister for giving Parliament the opportunity to have a debate on veterans, and I thank Susie Hamilton for the work that she has done over the p...
Graeme Dey SNP
Will the member give way?
Edward Mountain Con
If I have time, I will give way to the minister.
Graeme Dey SNP
I apologise, as I should have said in my opening speech that the Government will be happy to support Mr Mountain’s amendment in the spirit in which it is int...
Edward Mountain Con
I am delighted to hear that. There is potentially a huge benefit. I realise that there might be some nervousness when I mention the issue, given the state of...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate the Scottish Veterans Commissioner, retired Lieutenant Colonel Susie Hamilton—sorry, it is of course Lieutenant Commander Susie Hamilton, who ...
Graeme Dey SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please bring your remarks to a close, Mr Sweeney.
Paul Sweeney Lab
In the spirit of collaboration, I am more than happy to work as best as I can to be useful in liaising with UK Government colleagues on that. The recent anno...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I thank the 176,000 UK armed forces veterans who live in Scotland, and I would also like to mention the one in 30 adults in Shetland who have served in the U...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 17:02
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
I like talking about veterans in the chamber, because it is one of the few areas in which there is fairly broad consensus. There is clear agreement among all...
Graeme Dey SNP
Jackie Dunbar is absolutely right. I struggle to find the words to describe my view on the fact that only 45 general practices have registered for the scheme...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, minister. That was quite a lengthy response, and I am conscious that it is Ms Dunbar who has the floor. You have only 40 seconds left, Ms Dunbar.
Jackie Dunbar SNP
I welcome what the minister has just said about the work that is being done on the process. While we are talking about recognition schemes, I point out that,...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I declare an interest: I am a practising NHS GP. I also speak today as a Glasgow MSP who represents a city with a proud service history, with Royal Navy ship...
Paul Sweeney Lab
The member might have noted that the commissioner said that she was disappointed by the slow uptake of the general practice armed forces and veterans recogni...
Sandesh Gulhane Con
I was going to intervene on the minister on that. It is a question of making sure that general practitioners have the time to do that. There are a lot of thi...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I have spoken in this debate on a number of occasions over the years, and I am pleased to do so again today. First, as others have done, I thank all those wh...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
Support for veterans and those in the armed forces is important wherever you are in Scotland, but it has a special resonance in my constituency, which includ...
Edward Mountain Con
Made a request to intervene.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Jackie Baillie is concluding.
Jackie Baillie Lab
There is merit in Edward Mountain’s amendment, and we will support it today. At a time when armed forces recruitment is not a luxury but a necessity, I am s...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
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