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Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
17 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill
I, too, thank Liam McArthur for the way in which he has engaged on the bill and with me.Last week, we considered the specifics of what the bill would mean in real life. For 25 hours, we heard personal reflections and experiences as well as some of the difficulties in the detai...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
13 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the cabinet secretary for taking the intervention, and for his patience for such an untimely interruption.The cabinet secretary said that it was unusual for guidance to be laid before Parliament. He also mentioned some of the conscientious objections related to the chi...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
12 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
We have rightly had a lot of discussion about the absolute essential necessity of ensuring that palliative care is supported and funded. Is the cabinet secretary in a position to also guarantee that there would be no cuts to other areas in his portfolio, such as the social car...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
12 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I hope that I am not testing Liam McArthur’s or other members’ patience by intervening. The member would probably agree with me that, given some of the changes that might be necessary to create an assisted dying service within the NHS, his amendment 74 has the potential to mak...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
12 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I have read the detail of amendment 74 and listened carefully to what Liam McArthur has just said. Is his vision or understanding that parts of the NHS would sit side by side, so that, for example, something that is already part of an NHS estate could be remodelled to include ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
12 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I have listened to Liam McArthur, Elena Whitham and Stephen Kerr on this point. It is obviously important that we record the underlying illness, because that is the condition that the person expected to die from. However, it is also important for us to note that an assisted de...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
12 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I recall some of the exchanges that we had on the issue at stage 2. Liam McArthur will be aware that I suggested at stage 2 that, although it would be important to record on the death certificate the illness or the terminal illness that the person lived with, it should also be...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
12 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the member for taking the intervention, and I thank members for their continued patience. Does the member have any indication from any conversations that he has had with the Government on where funding for this particular advocacy service could come from? Will other ad...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
12 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Will the member take an intervention?
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
12 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I am listening carefully to the points that Mr Greer is making about some of the technicalities of the issue, and I understand the Law Society of Scotland’s points on it.Does the member also share my concern that requesting something does not necessarily mean that the provisio...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
12 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Will the member take an intervention?
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
12 Mar 2026
Point of Order
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Thank you for taking the point of order and forgive me for not giving you early sight of it.Yesterday evening, we debated in the chamber a motion to consider the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill tomorrow, in an ad...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
11 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I recognise that some of the amendments in the group seek to remove the possibility of improper motives influencing the process while others seek to include additional steps on assessment. It is crucial that all of that is reported and recorded, and I understand what motivated...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
11 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
How would the member address the fact that many of the professionals he has described—GPs, social workers and others—have said that they would find it difficult to make judgments about capacity and coercion within the existing structures?
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
10 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I was about to say that social workers have contacted us ahead of today’s debate to say that they are deeply worried about the bill as it stands, including, specifically, the amendments that were agreed to at stage 2.I and colleagues around the chamber—including, I am sure, my...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
10 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The National Council on Disability reported that social and family pressure has influenced some disabled people to consider assisted death, and that such pressure is often rooted in their perceptions of being a burden.The bill states that the person seeking assistance must dec...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
10 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the member for that intervention. I think that Sue Webber’s amendments highlight the inadequacies across the bill that we are being asked to discuss today.There are many decisions that we will be asked to make, sometimes in cases where we do not know what the future co...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
10 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
It is incredibly important that, in all aspects of people’s lives, we help them to understand the value of living and support them to continue doing so. That is one reason why the world-leading work that we do in suicide prevention in Scotland is incredibly important. That app...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
10 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
As many members across the chamber will know, thoughts of suicide and suicidal ideation are deeply complex and personal, and they can affect every aspect of people’s lives. Indeed, we rightly spend quite a lot of time looking to support people with such thoughts, including at ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
10 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendments in this group get to the heart of some of my concerns about the bill as drafted. Without support to ensure the equality and human rights of all, we could end up legislating to make it easier to die than to live and to deepen some already entrenched inequalities.Some...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
10 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Martin Whitfield gets to the heart of why I am concerned about these amendments. I fundamentally believe that they have been drafted with good intentions and I can see what Daniel Johnson is trying to do. However, an individual’s subjective view of tolerability and suffering c...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
10 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the member in charge of the bill for the way in which he has taken it through Parliament, and I thank other members for the way in which they have engaged in the very sincerely personal debate. I know that members are taking very seriously the weight of these decisions...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
05 Mar 2026
Disabled People’s Representation in Scottish Democracy
I welcome the opportunity to speak in this important debate and I thank my colleague Jeremy Balfour for bringing the matter to the chamber. His commitment to disability rights has meant that he has kept it on the agenda, and I hope that he is able to continue to do that in her...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
25 Feb 2026
Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Bill: Stage 3
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak. I will use my time to talk about the importance of funding social care like it matters—not just because it matters for the many people who use it but because it matters for all of us.Almost all of the population will use or experienc...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
25 Feb 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Visitor Levy (Scotland) Act 2024 (Child Disability Payment Exemption)
The regulations are a good example of how the extra costs that disabled people face can be addressed through initiatives that Governments bring in. Does the minister agree that there is therefore a need to look across Government portfolios to reduce the extra costs that disabl...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Jan 2026
Portfolio Question Time · Housing Support Services (Integration)
I have a constituent who has asked for a social care assessment, but the health and social care partnership has advised that an assessment cannot be progressed while he is living at home with his parents. However, he is unable to secure suitable housing for himself. When I rai...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Jan 2026
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
I thank the member for taking this intervention, as I tried and hoped to get to my mouse quickly enough to intervene on Jackie Dunbar earlier. I wanted to ask her to reflect on her comments about the Labour Party, on my membership and time on the committee and on the fact that...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
20 Jan 2026
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The member is quite right to point out the issues around graduate support. Does he agree that, with the gap between the number of disabled people and the number of non-disabled people in graduate-placed jobs growing, there is a need to do something specific for the group of di...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Jan 2026
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Is the minister in a position to set out when the Government will publish the responses to the consultation that it recently carried out on support for part-time study and disabled students, which closed on 9 October?
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
15 Jan 2026
First Minister’s Question Time · Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill (Implementation)
I hope that the technical issues with the audio and video feed have resolved themselves. I thank the First Minister for that answer. It is important that we, as MSPs, listen to experts, including those who will be tasked with implementing any change in the law—in this case, t...
6. Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
15 Jan 2026
First Minister’s Question Time · Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill (Implementation)
To ask the First Minister what the Scottish Government’s response is to findings published by the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow indicating that a majority of clinicians anticipate practical challenges in implementing the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
06 Jan 2026
Civil Legal Assistance
A happy new year to you, Presiding Officer, and to colleagues across the chamber. I am pleased to speak in this debate on the findings and recommendations of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee’s inquiry into civil legal aid assistance in Scotland, and I ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
17 Dec 2025
Recognising Small Business Saturday 2025
Small business Saturday is an annual opportunity to celebrate the hard work of small businesses across the UK. Shopping locally is not just good for the economy; it is good for our communities and good for Glasgow. It is also not just for Christmas. We need to do it all year r...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Dec 2025
Portfolio Question Time · Net Zero Policies (Cost)
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. This week, I met local home owners and constituents in Glasgow who spoke passionately about the co-operative retrofit model. The model works in communities to share information about options for retrofitting fo...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Dec 2025
Social Security Spending
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. Social security exists to provide a safety net, but safety nets are of no use if they have holes in them. To promise a new way but not manage the forecast spend is not just unfair but a dereliction of responsi...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Dec 2025
Portfolio Question Time · Local Government Services (Community-led Initiatives)
The North West Glasgow Voluntary Sector Network supports, connects and advocates for organisations providing vital services to the people who live in the north-west of Glasgow, many of them from some of the most deprived areas. All that could end in March, however, because it ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Dec 2025
E-bikes and E-scooters (Antisocial Use)
At the end of last week, a constituent spoke to me about the fact that cameras had been removed from lights in the Hyndland area of Glasgow. He feels that that is a danger to road users because police are less often able to see what is going on. Is the minister is aware of tha...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2025
Widening Access to Higher Education
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2025
Widening Access to Higher Education
Capping potential is something that any member in this chamber must seek to remove. It is important that people can get to university through potential and drive alone. That can be achieved only if universities and colleges across the sector have the support of their Governmen...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2025
Widening Access to Higher Education
It is a pleasure to wind up for Scottish Labour. I thank Professor John McKendrick for the work that he has done on widening access to date and for allowing the committee access to his expertise in it. I have enjoyed hearing members talk about the brilliant educational instit...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2025
Widening Access to Higher Education
I am enjoying the member’s contribution on the concerns around the number of people who are being turned away from colleges. Does he agree that it is also a tragedy that 1,200 students applied for places at Glasgow Kelvin College but there were only 300 places available to all...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2025
Widening Access to Higher Education
To start, I thank my colleagues on the Education, Children and Young People Committee, the clerks who supported us and all those who gave evidence in this important inquiry. Widening access to education is crucial if we are to open opportunities for everyone in Scotland to li...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2025
Widening Access to Higher Education
I welcome that progress, but can the minister set out when he will be in a position to respond to the consultation on support for disabled students and part-time students?
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2025
Portfolio Question Time · Skills Development (North-east Fishing Industry)
The fishing industry in the north-east of Scotland will, of course, have to rely on the existence of apprenticeships and skills, but the Government is systematically failing in that respect. The minister has now written to the Education, Children and Young People Committee to ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank the minister for the intervention and for recognising the desire to make the system better. One of the comments in the letter to the committee from the minister is about the need for more “due diligence on the implications and risks associated with” the options “p...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will finish my point, then I will be happy to do so. In the minister’s letter to the committee, he sets out the future responsibilities of the redesigned funding body. He says: “We would aim to launch this new capability by April 2029.” The minister goes on to say that “S...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The amendment is not about saying that the SFC would not prioritise apprenticeships. It is about recognising that the SFC is quite busy with other fires that it needs to fight, including in universities and colleges across the country. People can do only so many things at one ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Good morning. Forgive me, because I have already spoken and have not said that yet. My amendment 109 says that work-based learning or foundation apprenticeships must be delivered collaboratively with employers, local authorities and schools and that consideration must be give...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Given the commitment from the Government to look to progress this provision at stage 3, but changing it, I am happy not to press amendment 206. Amendment 206, by agreement, withdrawn. Sections 21 and 22 agreed to. Section 23—Regulation-making powers Amendment 23 moved—Ben ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 206 requires the SFC to carry out a review of the act. It states that the review should include the experience of learners of access to information and support in relation to different learner options; the experience of employers who provide work-based learning; the ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 204, in my name, would set out that ministers must direct that the body administering funds for student support in FE, “must ensure that advice ... is provided in person (if requested by the person applying for ... such funds), ... is reasonably available at the pla...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
On the basis of commitments from the Government on membership of the apprenticeship committee, I will not move amendments 183 and 185. On behalf of Daniel Johnson, I undertake to engage with the Government in the hope that agreement can be reached about the importance of the ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 181 is in the name of my colleague Daniel Johnson. It would replace the apprenticeship committee established by the bill with an industry skills board that would include representatives from levy-paying businesses, SMEs, colleges, independent training providers and t...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I am sorry—you are correct. I will press amendment 172. My screen is frozen; I am trying to fix it.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I welcome the minister’s clarification on that point. In that case, I will move amendment 174 when the time comes. In the meantime, I am prepared to work with the Government. I have made it clear that the council must have representation from students and trade unions across ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I intend to press—let me get the exact number of the amendment so that I do not get them confused—amendment 172, because I do not accept the minister’s concern about it being too prescriptive about the need to explain, at the very least, why a membership of the council has bee...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I support the amendments in Ross Greer’s name. Does he agree that, although he does not set it out in the detail of amendment 179 as I have done in my amendments, his intention is that trade union representatives would be covered by the amendment?
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Absolutely. I agree that experts in the field are crucial. The fact is that I consider staff who work in the system and students who engage with and are educated in it to be experts, too. I should also point out that amendment 174, in my name, seeks to bring in those with “c...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
No, I do not think so. I think that we would be getting the balance absolutely right by putting at the heart of all of this those who either deliver in the sectors or who receive education from the sectors. That is incredibly important.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I am happy to do so.
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Education, Children and Young People Committee 03 December 2025 [Draft]

03 Dec 2025 · S6 · Education, Children and Young People Committee
Item of business
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Amendment 181 is in the name of my colleague Daniel Johnson. It would replace the apprenticeship committee established by the bill with an industry skills board that would include representatives from levy-paying businesses, SMEs, colleges, independent training providers and trade unions.

The skills board would be led by a senior figure from industry and would have a defined role with regard to apprenticeship standards, using the SAAB terms of reference as a starting point. It would strengthen employer input to and endorsement of the strategic direction of apprenticeships and work-based learning pathways, thereby supporting the apprenticeship system to meet the needs of industry. It would ensure the alignment of apprenticeships with economic growth and job opportunities. It would set and maintain the guiding principles for the core requirement of apprenticeship frameworks that they must produce a competent, highly skilled and flexible workforce.

It would inform and make recommendations on the priorities for development and continuous improvement activities, including in the area of equalities. It would provide advice on relevant matters affecting employers and on emerging policy that is likely to impact on the strategic direction of apprenticeships, such as apprenticeship levies, for example. It would act as a custodian for approved apprenticeship frameworks on behalf of industry, and it would be an ambassador for apprenticeships with other businesses and with young people. It would also make an annual assessment of skills gaps to assess annual modern apprenticeship demand and, crucially, make binding recommendations on grant allocations on the basis of those assessments.

I will now move on to three amendments in the group that are in my name. My amendment 183 would ensure that the membership of the apprenticeship committee would include someone representing small and micro businesses. My amendment 185 would add a provision to ensure that someone who is doing an apprenticeship or a college course was represented on the apprenticeship committee.

My amendment 193 would require the Government to report within a year on what support should be provided to enable persons who are undertaking a course of education or training and who are not in a paid sabbatical role to become a member of the council or of a committee of the council. Those would be people who, as other amendments would require, should be represented on the council. It is important that people who are asked to take on roles with such a level of responsibility are supported to do so.

Finally, I will speak to Monica Lennon’s amendment 186, which would make it clear that the council must include trade and industry representation on the apprenticeship committee. It is important to ensure that bodies that represent professions, such as those in the electrotechnical sector, where safety is of the highest priority, are included on the committee as trade and industry representatives. Without the involvement of recognised bodies that are connected to electrotechnical apprenticeships, there is a significant danger that any changes that are made to safety and technical operations could be overlooked, and that might lead to dangers throughout a young person’s apprenticeship. Bodies such as the Scottish Joint Industry Board for the electrical industry in Scotland, which includes representation for employers, Scotland’s Electrical Trade Association for the electrical contracting industry—SELECT—and the industry trade union Unite the Union, would be the ideal representative bodies to ensure that those who are undertaking the electrical installation apprenticeship programme are protected going forward.

I hope that the amendments meet with support from across the committee.

I move amendment 181.

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Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
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Ben Macpherson SNP
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