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Meeting of the Parliament 04 December 2025

04 Dec 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Widening Access to Higher Education
Ross, Douglas Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I agree with Martin Whitfield on that point, as does almost everyone who gave evidence to our committee. There was almost unanimous support, not just in the few weeks in which we took evidence, nor just in the written submissions, but going back year after year to the report from the original commission in 2016. Why, at the end of 2025, are we still calling for the introduction of a unique learner number? The committee was extremely disappointed in the apparent lack of progress and that the Scottish Government has said that a unique learner number will not be introduced in the short term or even in the medium term, despite that being recommended by the commission almost a decade ago.

The committee was also disappointed that the Scottish Government was unable to provide any indicative costs for the introduction of a unique learner number, or even to confirm whether legislation would be required. When the current minister’s predecessor appeared before the committee, he told us that he had viewed all the other evidence, in which a unique learner number had come up time and time again, but when questions were put to him about whether legislation was needed and how much it would cost, he had no idea. I felt that it was disrespectful to the committee for a minister not to have come prepared to answer on an issue that it was clear would come up.

Our report was agreed to unanimously by every party in the Parliament. I stress that there was no dissent on the report as a whole or on our recommendation on a unique learner number. We recommended that the Scottish Government should commit to the introduction of a unique learner number and outline how that would be achieved. Sadly, in its response, the Scottish Government said:

“Whilst we recognise the potential long-term benefits of a Unique Learner Number ... it is a wide-ranging issue requiring careful consideration”

because it is

“complex ... inherently cross-cutting in nature, and potentially involves sharing the personal, sensitive data of millions of individuals.”

We all know that. We know what the challenges are. We just want a solution.

It is only the Scottish Government that is preventing the adoption of a unique learner number. That is why I was encouraged by the fact that back-bench members of the Government party supported the recommendation, and I hope that the new minister and the Government listen not only to Opposition politicians but to the parties represented on our committee, whose unanimous view was that a unique learner number is needed.

There are a number of other issues that I want to focus on. We looked at the measures relating to the eligibility for, and the progress on, widening access initiatives. Currently, we use the Scottish index of multiple deprivation but, during the inquiry, the committee heard about the limitations on its ability to identify all the students who might need support. Although it is valuable and helpful at a national level, the SIMD is an area-based measure that does not capture individual circumstances. For example, it will not capture the circumstances of someone who is living in poverty in an otherwise affluent area.

Although the commissioner for fair access highlighted the continued need for a central measure of progress, he and many other witnesses advocated using a basket of indicators, including free school meals data, to help to identify individuals from disadvantaged backgrounds. The committee noted the usefulness of the SIMD as a widening access measure, but we recognised its limitations, particularly in relation to rural areas. We therefore recommended that the Scottish Government should work with stakeholders and the commissioner to introduce a basket of measures to identify person-centred characteristics for widening access measures.

I want to discuss free school meals data. The committee heard about the on-going work in relation to a pilot scheme in the north-east on the use of free school meals data, in addition to the SIMD, as a means of identifying students who are eligible for widening access measures. In its submission to the committee, Robert Gordon University said that the lack of legislation had made implementing data-sharing arrangements difficult.

Although we appreciate that there are potential barriers in relation to data sharing more widely, we urged the Scottish Government to look into the challenges and to confirm whether legislation was required to address them. The committee subsequently urged the Scottish Government to find a vehicle to allow for the necessary statutory measures, so we welcome the minister’s amendment at stage 2 of the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill, which seeks to address those barriers. We raised the issue in our report and, very quickly, the Government and the minister found a solution.

There are a number of other issues that I am sure that committee members and others will address. I want to finish on the subject of colleges. It is important to recognise the crucial role that colleges play in widening access to university, via articulation, for students from SIMD 20 backgrounds, disabled students, care-experienced students, black and minority ethnic students and adult learners. However, the committee also recognises the importance of college education in its own right.

During this parliamentary session, the committee has conducted an inquiry on colleges and, in recent years, has focused much of its pre-budget scrutiny on the sector. For a number of years, our committee has expressed concern about the financial sustainability of Scotland’s colleges and has made numerous recommendations to the Scottish Government on how those financial challenges should be addressed.

The committee is frustrated at the lack of change, or the urgency to make change, for the sector, and we share the concerns about the issues that colleges up and down the country are facing and about the serious and significant risk to the financial future of some of our colleges. Given the importance of the widening access agenda, the loss of colleges would not only affect the communities that they serve but undermine the drive to widen access to opportunities, including degree-level study nationally.

I am grateful for the time in the chamber today for our committee report to be fully debated and discussed. I look forward to hearing from committee colleagues and other members during the debate, and to hearing from the minister about the measures that the Scottish Government can take to ensure that access to education and institutions is widened. I commend our report.

I move,

That the Parliament notes the findings and recommendations in the Education, Children and Young People Committee’s 5th Report, 2025 (Session 6), Widening access to higher education inquiry (SP Paper 782).

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-19984, in the name of Douglas Ross, on behalf of the Education, Children and Young People Committee, on w...
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am pleased to open this debate on the committee’s inquiry into widening access to higher education. I thank all those who shared their knowledge and expert...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I have heard the unique learner number described as a “bureaucratic nicety”. Does Douglas Ross agree that it is far from that and that it would be a fundamen...
Douglas Ross Con
I agree with Martin Whitfield on that point, as does almost everyone who gave evidence to our committee. There was almost unanimous support, not just in the ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We have a little bit of time in hand, so members will certainly get back the time for any interventions. I call Ben Macpherson. Minister, you have around eig...
The Minister for Higher and Further Education (Ben Macpherson) SNP
I thank the convener and the members of the committee, as it is their work, and that of all the stakeholders who gave evidence to the committee, that enables...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I welcome that progress, but can the minister set out when he will be in a position to respond to the consultation on support for disabled students and part-...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I will be happy to update the member on that in due course, but I am not able to provide an answer at this juncture. I thank her for raising the point—I appr...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
The minister is right to point out some of the progress—there is no doubt that there has been some—but we are here to try to make things better. He is four m...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I appreciate the member probing me on those points. One key bit of progress was shown yesterday in the action that is being taken in the Tertiary Education a...
Martin Whitfield Lab
Does that not relate to the convener’s question about the unique learner number? If we can introduce that for what is, sadly, a relatively large group of peo...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I appreciate the points about the unique learner number that have been made by the member, by the convener in his speech and in the committee’s report. As ot...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Douglas Ross Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Ben Macpherson SNP
Two members are on their feet. I will take Brian Whittle’s intervention.
Brian Whittle Con
I am grateful to the minister for taking so many interventions. I am slightly concerned about the Government’s reticence across a lot of portfolios to implem...
Ben Macpherson SNP
This Parliament, even in my time here, has had many debates on systems and data sharing, be it in relation to social security, the considerations around name...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I, too, thank all the people who gave evidence to the committee and all the organisations that provided helpful briefings ahead of the debate. In seven minut...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I am grateful to Miles Briggs for going down that path, shocked as I am that he quoted Keir Starmer. The reason for that is that one of my long-standing conc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back, Mr Briggs.
Miles Briggs Con
I absolutely agree with Stephen Kerr. We need a new vision for how such advice is delivered and we need different organisations to provide the opportunity fo...
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am grateful to Miles Briggs for taking my intervention. Is it not right to say that that loss of lifelong learning happened to coincide with when part-time...
Miles Briggs Con
Absolutely. It is a fact that we have lost more than 100,000 places on such courses in our college sector. That has had huge impacts on every part of our soc...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
To start, I thank my colleagues on the Education, Children and Young People Committee, the clerks who supported us and all those who gave evidence in this im...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I thank the committee members, the clerks and everyone who gave evidence to the inquiry, because this report matters. Free, universal and equitable access to...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I thank the clerks and the witnesses who gave evidence to the committee, as well as my fellow committee members. I can honestly say that there was universa...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
For the sake of clarity, I was not quite as excited about it as Mr Rennie was. Laughter.
Willie Rennie LD
Two very important universities have been part of my life. The first is what I called Paisley tech when I was there in the 1980s, which is now the University...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the chance to take part in today’s debate. I am not a member of the Education, Children and Young People Committee, but I am grateful to th...
Willie Rennie LD
I can attest that John McKendrick is a good addition to the team. Can Mr Hepburn tell us why he did not progress the unique learner number? What was his ins...