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Meeting of the Parliament 03 December 2025

03 Dec 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Social Care

I am grateful to Labour for making time to discuss this important issue. As we convene in the chamber this afternoon, any number of our constituents might be waiting for an ambulance, either in their home or, worse still, in the street; any number of our constituents might be in an ambulance waiting to get into an accident and emergency department or trying to leave an accident and emergency department to get into the wider hospital; and any number of our constituents might be receiving a dispiriting telephone call to say that the elective orthopaedic surgery that they were expecting to have tomorrow has now been cancelled. That is all for want of capacity in our hospitals.

The crisis in our health service is not caused by a deficiency in emergency care or in orthopaedic surgery; it is caused by the fact that, on any given night in Scotland, 2,000 of our fellow Scots are trapped in hospital, well enough to go home but too frail to do so without a care package for them to receive at home or a care bed in a local care home. That reality causes an interruption in flow throughout our whole health sector.

This week, it was revealed that that is not the case just in our hospitals.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-19977, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on crisis in social care. I invite members who wish to participate ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
My constituent Charles McGarvey was an English teacher, but in 2018, his life changed forever. Following an accident, he became quadriplegic. He cannot use h...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
I start by thanking those in our incredible social care workforce for all that they do. Their hard work and resilience ensure that those who need care receiv...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Neil Gray SNP
If I can get the time back, Presiding Officer, I will take an intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You can get the time back, cabinet secretary.
Paul Sweeney Lab
On collaboration and co-operation, the cabinet secretary might be aware of my constituent six-year-old Brie McCann, who is urgently waiting for a transfer to...
Neil Gray SNP
That is not directly related to social care, but of course I am aware of the issue. I spoke about the issue on BBC Radio Scotland’s “Breakfast” programme thi...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Neil Gray SNP
I know that Jackie Baillie does not want to hear that, so instead I will share with her some comments from the sector. In May, Donald Macaskill of Scottish C...
Jackie Baillie Lab
That is fantastic. This challenge has been on-going for years now. Year after year, there have been vacancies in social care that the Government has been una...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Mr Gray.
Jackie Baillie Lab
You had the power to do something about it, but you have failed.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Always speak through the chair, Ms Baillie.
Neil Gray SNP
I challenge Jackie Baillie to defend her Government’s approach to migration, which, in the words of the industry, is undermining our approach to recruitment ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Neil Gray SNP
—to undermine our critical services; it is a disgrace.
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Made a request to intervene.
Neil Gray SNP
I think that I need to conclude. Scotland has many talented and compassionate social care workers who have settled here and who call our communities home. W...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I discourage members on the front benches from carrying on a conversation while someone else is on their feet. 15:08
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I declare an interest as a practising NHS general practitioner. Scotland’s social care system is in crisis—not by accident but because this SNP Government ...
Neil Gray SNP
I recognise that there will be differences in viewpoint on the issue between us and the Conservatives, but I hope that you can see quite clearly that I have ...
Sandesh Gulhane Con
It is very clear that the Labour budget was damaging to our social care sector and our charities, but we cannot get away from the fact that the SNP has had 1...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I pay tribute to the social care staff and unpaid carers of all ages who work so hard to take care of people under often very difficult circumstances. Low pa...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will Mark Ruskell take an intervention?
Mark Ruskell Green
I am in my closing sentences. I urge the Scottish Government to redouble its efforts, using all the powers that it has, to fund and reform a social care sys...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful to Labour for making time to discuss this important issue. As we convene in the chamber this afternoon, any number of our constituents might be...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will Alex Cole-Hamilton take an intervention?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I am afraid that I have a lot to get through. It has been revealed that, notwithstanding the people I have just talked about, more than 11,000 people are cu...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the member take an intervention?