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Meeting of the Parliament 19 November 2025

19 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Rural Communities (Challenges)

The challenges that my colleague Finlay Carson has laid out are moving and troubling, and illustrate the experience of an area that faces a number of problems through no fault of its own. However, those challenges will be painfully familiar to people in other parts of rural Scotland, too.

Further north, in Ayrshire, we can empathise with all those issues, and I am sure that colleagues across the chamber who represent other areas of the country will say the same. The bottom line is this: small towns and villages have been neglected by the SNP Government, and that has been the case for almost two decades now.

Few cases sum up the issue better than the fate of the Carrick Glen national treatment centre. That project was supposed to upgrade significantly the level of care for patients across Ayrshire and Arran and provide staff with a far better environment in which to work.

However, two years ago, it was decided to hit pause on the scheme, even though around £5 million had been spent on it. The building now sits lifeless, contributing nothing, and yet sucking out millions of pounds that could have been invested elsewhere.

It would have been better if the Scottish Government had come good on its pledge to complete the project—by now, the centre would be up and running, and serving the local community well.

However, the problems in NHS Ayrshire and Arran go much further than that. The organisation is tens of millions of pounds in debt and needs huge loans simply to break even. Scotland’s public sector watchdog said that the challenges facing NHS Ayrshire and Arran were “unprecedented” and that there did not seem to be any plan to get out of the situation.

The Scottish Government needs to ask itself how things have got that bad. NHS Ayrshire and Arran is not the only health board, nor indeed the only public sector organisation, that is facing dire financial challenges, as Rhoda Grant mentioned. It is difficult to see how things will get better, especially as parts of Ayrshire have the fastest-growing elderly population in the country, which will only place additional pressure on health and social care.

The SNP Government has promised the people of Ayrshire many things, but it has delivered few. I will give members a few facts on Ayrshire. Shockingly, more than 11,000 people in Ayrshire have been waiting more than a year for an out-patient appointment—that is the second-highest number in any health board. That includes almost 2,800 people who need general surgery. NHS Ayrshire and Arran also had the longest waits for an audiology appointment, with people waiting 62 weeks on average for an appointment and 115 weeks to actually get hearing aids fitted. People are waiting on average 26 weeks for orthopaedic treatment, with one in 10 waiting more than 72 weeks.

That is on top of the trouble that people have in accessing a dental appointment. The SNP promised to scrap dental charges for everyone, but it has failed to deliver, and now 40 per cent of people in the most deprived areas in Ayrshire have had no contact with a dentist in two years, and one in four primary 7 pupils are suffering from tooth decay.

Instead of focusing on things that could make people’s lives better, nationalist ministers have obsessed about independence to the cost of everything else. The evidence is on show in almost every debate that the Parliament has. Rural Scotland might be more remote, and might happen to be in less accessible places, but it is a vital part of the country, and it deserves as much attention as everywhere else.

I fully support the motion that Finlay Carson has lodged, and I hope that those SNP members who have turned up today take the messages from the debate back to their Government ministers, whose time for acting is fast running out.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-19548, in the name of Finlay Carson, on the growing tide of on-going challenges facing...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I thank all members from across the chamber who supported the motion. I will be clear: rural Scotland, including areas such as Stranraer and the Rhins in Dum...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Mr Carson, I caution against electioneering in the chamber.
Finlay Carson Con
My apologies, Deputy Presiding Officer. Scottish Conservatives believe in fairness and that where someone lives should never determine the quality of care t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that there is a lot of demand to speak in the debate. I am conscious that we have already been late in starting, so I will require members t...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Deputy Presiding Officer, can I go after the next speaker? I am having technical difficulties with my Surface laptop.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I think that we can do that.
Christine Grahame SNP
Thank you.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Douglas Ross, assuming that he is ready to go. 17:51
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am always happy to accommodate Christine Grahame in any way that I can. I am delighted to contribute to the debate, which has been brought to the chamber ...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
As ever, Mr Ross is speaking up for his rural constituents. What do you think that viewers of the debate tonight should read into the fact that not one sing...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Always speak through the chair, Mr Hoy.
Douglas Ross Con
I think that it is very disappointing. I will listen closely to the speeches from SNP members when we hear them. However, I note that we have members’ busine...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I am not getting an indication from Ms Grahame that she is ready just yet, so I will call Craig Hoy and possibly come back to Christine Grahame after that. ...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Finlay Carson for bringing this important debate to the chamber. Today, we are talking about one overarching issue: the SNP’s neglect of rural Scotla...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I see that Ms Grahame is still not ready, so I call Rhoda Grant. 18:00
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I thank Finlay Carson for securing this important debate. His motion speaks about the impact of urban-based policies on Dumfries and Galloway, and that is re...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Sharon Dowey. 18:04
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
The challenges that my colleague Finlay Carson has laid out are moving and troubling, and illustrate the experience of an area that faces a number of problem...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I now call Christine Grahame. 18:08
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer, for allowing me to resolve my technical issue—so far, so good, but it is early days yet. I congratulate the member on...
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I thank the member for bringing this really important members’ business debate to the chamber. In some ways, I am a little bit shocked. I had a speech prepar...
Christine Grahame SNP
I am obliged to the member for taking my intervention. I am not aware of this—perhaps you can advise me. Does NHS Grampian operate the hospital at home mode...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Through the chair.
Tim Eagle Con
I was on the IJB in Moray when the hospital at home model was being discussed, and I remember making the point at the time that the model works only if we ha...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank my friend and colleague Finlay Carson for securing the debate, which I have been listening to intently. I did not map out a speech—I thought that I w...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I, too, thank Finlay Carson for bringing today’s debate to the chamber, and I was pleased to support his motion. As we have heard, people in rural areas face...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
My colleague Finlay Carson’s motion is absolutely spot on, and I thank him for bringing the debate to the chamber. Under the SNP, taxpayers are paying more a...
Christine Grahame SNP
I hope that the member will agree that the demographics in the Borders are extremely challenging, with an increasing elderly population that is living even l...
Rachael Hamilton Con
Christine Grahame has made my point for me: we should not have inequality, simply because of a geographical difference between urban and rural communities. I...