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Meeting of the Parliament 19 November 2025

19 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Rural Communities (Challenges)
Grant, Rhoda Lab Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I thank Finlay Carson for securing this important debate. His motion speaks about the impact of urban-based policies on Dumfries and Galloway, and that is reflected in my Highlands and Islands region, where we suffer very similar challenges—I am sure that any member who represents any part of rural Scotland would say the same.

This week, the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee took evidence from stakeholders from rural Scotland, who talked about access to services. They told us that car ownership is a necessity to enable people to access services, given the lack of public transport. Even where there is public transport, it can be unaffordable.

Accessing the health service is not free at the point of use, because the cost of getting there means that people cannot access the services that they need. Failure to attend can also mean that they come off a waiting list altogether. I was told by a constituent of a case in which an elderly resident could access hospital appointments only if they were made on her GP’s day off, so that her GP could drive her to the appointment. That is an absolutely crazy situation.

We were also told that, although running a car costs about £50 per week, which adds to the cost of living in rural Scotland, it is necessary for people to carry that cost because it is the only way that they are able to access services.

I probably do not need to speak again about mothers from Caithness having to drive to Inverness to give birth. That journey is equivalent to driving from Edinburgh to Newcastle. If people do not have a car, they have to take a train or even a bus, and the journey is much longer. I recently heard of a mother who, just a couple of days after delivering her baby by caesarean section, had to make a four-and-a-half-hour journey by train, on her own, carrying her newborn baby. I know that there are similar issues in Stranraer.

Housing was another theme that came across as a major issue when we heard from witnesses at the committee meeting. There is little or no affordable housing in rural Scotland for local people in order to allow them to stay in the areas in which they were brought up, so many are being forced to move away. Housing was also raised as an issue in relation to recruiting staff to provide essential services. People would apply for posts and some would even start work, only for them to find that they could not find a home, so they were forced to leave. Rural health and care services are left to depend on expensive agency staff and, in many cases, those services cannot run at all.

All of that leads people to leave, so the problems create a downward spiral of depopulation. Centralisation happens in all aspects of daily life in rural Scotland. We saw it with the centralisation of police and fire services, which have since retreated from those areas. Police stations have closed and retained fire stations are not staffed to a level that allows them to go to an emergency.

Those issues are replicated throughout all of rural Scotland. We need to find solutions that provide people in my region—and in Dumfries and Galloway and elsewhere in rural Scotland—with equitable access to services.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-19548, in the name of Finlay Carson, on the growing tide of on-going challenges facing...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I thank all members from across the chamber who supported the motion. I will be clear: rural Scotland, including areas such as Stranraer and the Rhins in Dum...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Mr Carson, I caution against electioneering in the chamber.
Finlay Carson Con
My apologies, Deputy Presiding Officer. Scottish Conservatives believe in fairness and that where someone lives should never determine the quality of care t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that there is a lot of demand to speak in the debate. I am conscious that we have already been late in starting, so I will require members t...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Deputy Presiding Officer, can I go after the next speaker? I am having technical difficulties with my Surface laptop.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I think that we can do that.
Christine Grahame SNP
Thank you.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Douglas Ross, assuming that he is ready to go. 17:51
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am always happy to accommodate Christine Grahame in any way that I can. I am delighted to contribute to the debate, which has been brought to the chamber ...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
As ever, Mr Ross is speaking up for his rural constituents. What do you think that viewers of the debate tonight should read into the fact that not one sing...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Always speak through the chair, Mr Hoy.
Douglas Ross Con
I think that it is very disappointing. I will listen closely to the speeches from SNP members when we hear them. However, I note that we have members’ busine...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I am not getting an indication from Ms Grahame that she is ready just yet, so I will call Craig Hoy and possibly come back to Christine Grahame after that. ...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Finlay Carson for bringing this important debate to the chamber. Today, we are talking about one overarching issue: the SNP’s neglect of rural Scotla...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I see that Ms Grahame is still not ready, so I call Rhoda Grant. 18:00
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I thank Finlay Carson for securing this important debate. His motion speaks about the impact of urban-based policies on Dumfries and Galloway, and that is re...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Sharon Dowey. 18:04
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
The challenges that my colleague Finlay Carson has laid out are moving and troubling, and illustrate the experience of an area that faces a number of problem...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I now call Christine Grahame. 18:08
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer, for allowing me to resolve my technical issue—so far, so good, but it is early days yet. I congratulate the member on...
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I thank the member for bringing this really important members’ business debate to the chamber. In some ways, I am a little bit shocked. I had a speech prepar...
Christine Grahame SNP
I am obliged to the member for taking my intervention. I am not aware of this—perhaps you can advise me. Does NHS Grampian operate the hospital at home mode...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Through the chair.
Tim Eagle Con
I was on the IJB in Moray when the hospital at home model was being discussed, and I remember making the point at the time that the model works only if we ha...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank my friend and colleague Finlay Carson for securing the debate, which I have been listening to intently. I did not map out a speech—I thought that I w...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I, too, thank Finlay Carson for bringing today’s debate to the chamber, and I was pleased to support his motion. As we have heard, people in rural areas face...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
My colleague Finlay Carson’s motion is absolutely spot on, and I thank him for bringing the debate to the chamber. Under the SNP, taxpayers are paying more a...
Christine Grahame SNP
I hope that the member will agree that the demographics in the Borders are extremely challenging, with an increasing elderly population that is living even l...
Rachael Hamilton Con
Christine Grahame has made my point for me: we should not have inequality, simply because of a geographical difference between urban and rural communities. I...