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Meeting of the Parliament 19 November 2025

19 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Rural Communities (Challenges)
Ross, Douglas Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I think that it is very disappointing. I will listen closely to the speeches from SNP members when we hear them. However, I note that we have members’ business debates to try to get cross-party support. We do not always agree with every word in a motion, but I have supported SNP motions in order to allow a subject to be debated. I am grateful that Finlay Carson was able to get support in order to have this important topic debated in the chamber, but I think that, when people look around and see the vast number of empty seats in the middle and on the other side of the chamber, they will wonder why those MSPs are not here to raise constituency concerns about healthcare issues.

In my final minute, I will relay the details of a case that I have already articulated to the cabinet secretary—I have provided him with further information. The case highlights what we are facing in Moray. A father and husband had a heart attack on Saturday 1 November. He stayed in the accident and emergency department at Dr Gray’s hospital, where he was based for four days, in completely inappropriate conditions. He was transferred to Aberdeen Royal infirmary on Thursday 6 November. He was told that he needed an angiogram, but the Scottish Government has told NHS Grampian that it will not pay for angiograms to be performed at the weekend. I want to know why, in one of the biggest health boards in Scotland, we are not performing that important procedure at the weekend. He had to wait until the following Monday—he got his angiogram and was released on Tuesday 11 November, well over a week later. Why was that treatment and vital test delayed, and why was he then forced to find his own way home from Aberdeen to Moray?

The family has put forward a very sensible solution: that we have a shuttle bus between the ARI and Dr Gray’s, or back to Moray, so that people can use that type of facility to get to and from those two medical centres, rather than having to rely on the good will of friends and family. I think that it would make a real difference if the minister could take forward that solution.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-19548, in the name of Finlay Carson, on the growing tide of on-going challenges facing...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I thank all members from across the chamber who supported the motion. I will be clear: rural Scotland, including areas such as Stranraer and the Rhins in Dum...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Mr Carson, I caution against electioneering in the chamber.
Finlay Carson Con
My apologies, Deputy Presiding Officer. Scottish Conservatives believe in fairness and that where someone lives should never determine the quality of care t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that there is a lot of demand to speak in the debate. I am conscious that we have already been late in starting, so I will require members t...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Deputy Presiding Officer, can I go after the next speaker? I am having technical difficulties with my Surface laptop.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I think that we can do that.
Christine Grahame SNP
Thank you.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Douglas Ross, assuming that he is ready to go. 17:51
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am always happy to accommodate Christine Grahame in any way that I can. I am delighted to contribute to the debate, which has been brought to the chamber ...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
As ever, Mr Ross is speaking up for his rural constituents. What do you think that viewers of the debate tonight should read into the fact that not one sing...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Always speak through the chair, Mr Hoy.
Douglas Ross Con
I think that it is very disappointing. I will listen closely to the speeches from SNP members when we hear them. However, I note that we have members’ busine...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I am not getting an indication from Ms Grahame that she is ready just yet, so I will call Craig Hoy and possibly come back to Christine Grahame after that. ...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Finlay Carson for bringing this important debate to the chamber. Today, we are talking about one overarching issue: the SNP’s neglect of rural Scotla...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I see that Ms Grahame is still not ready, so I call Rhoda Grant. 18:00
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I thank Finlay Carson for securing this important debate. His motion speaks about the impact of urban-based policies on Dumfries and Galloway, and that is re...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Sharon Dowey. 18:04
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
The challenges that my colleague Finlay Carson has laid out are moving and troubling, and illustrate the experience of an area that faces a number of problem...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I now call Christine Grahame. 18:08
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer, for allowing me to resolve my technical issue—so far, so good, but it is early days yet. I congratulate the member on...
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I thank the member for bringing this really important members’ business debate to the chamber. In some ways, I am a little bit shocked. I had a speech prepar...
Christine Grahame SNP
I am obliged to the member for taking my intervention. I am not aware of this—perhaps you can advise me. Does NHS Grampian operate the hospital at home mode...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Through the chair.
Tim Eagle Con
I was on the IJB in Moray when the hospital at home model was being discussed, and I remember making the point at the time that the model works only if we ha...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank my friend and colleague Finlay Carson for securing the debate, which I have been listening to intently. I did not map out a speech—I thought that I w...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I, too, thank Finlay Carson for bringing today’s debate to the chamber, and I was pleased to support his motion. As we have heard, people in rural areas face...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
My colleague Finlay Carson’s motion is absolutely spot on, and I thank him for bringing the debate to the chamber. Under the SNP, taxpayers are paying more a...
Christine Grahame SNP
I hope that the member will agree that the demographics in the Borders are extremely challenging, with an increasing elderly population that is living even l...
Rachael Hamilton Con
Christine Grahame has made my point for me: we should not have inequality, simply because of a geographical difference between urban and rural communities. I...