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Meeting of the Parliament 13 November 2025

13 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1
Simpson, Graham Reform Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

It has taken a long time to reach today’s stage 1 debate on the Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill. I first suggested that we should do something in this area in the previous session of Parliament, following a number of conversations with my then party leader, Ruth Davidson. I got things formally moving on the bill at the start of this session, the end of which we are perilously near. The bill was introduced in December 2024 and has been at stage 1 for 11 months. It should not take this long for a member’s bill to be dealt with. In the past, we have seen bills fall due to lack of time.

I can now, at last, say that I am grateful to the non-Government bills unit for its work on the bill so far. We still have a lot of work to do in a very short space of time. I also thank the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee for its report, which I will come on to. I also thank the former Minister for Parliamentary Business, Jamie Hepburn, who is sitting in the chamber, for his positive engagement on the bill.

If the Parliament does not get the bill over the line in this session, Scotland will be left as the only part of the United Kingdom without a recall system. That would represent a failure of Parliament that I do not want to see. We must collectively rise to the challenge. The Welsh are now edging ahead of us, having taken evidence from me as they thought about how they might tackle the issue. Last week, their Government introduced a bill that includes a recall process for all members of their Parliament.

My bill would improve democratic accountability by ensuring that MSPs can be removed more easily if our conduct falls short of what our constituents could reasonably expect. The first part of my bill would introduce a recall system for the Scottish Parliament, drawing on the Recall of MPs Act 2015, but adapting those provisions to ensure that they work with our distinct electoral system.

The bill sets out that any member will be subject to a recall petition if one of two trigger conditions is met. The first trigger is if the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee recommends to Parliament a sanction of 14 days or 10 sitting days, and Parliament resolves to sanction the member for that period. The second trigger is if the member is sentenced to prison for a period of up to six months.

The Presiding Officer would then begin the recall petition process. That would be a four-week process for the electorate to indicate whether they consider that the member should be subject to recall. For a constituency member, if a threshold of 10 per cent of the electorate in that constituency signing the petition were met, the member would be removed from office. They would have the option of running in the resulting by-election to seek to regain their seat. For regional MSPs, my original proposal—the one in the bill that is before us—was to have a recall petition process across the region, which would require 10 per cent of the region’s electorate to sign a recall petition. In addition, at least three constituencies within that region would have to reach the 10 per cent threshold.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-19565, in the name of Graham Simpson, on the Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill at ...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Reform) Reform
It has taken a long time to reach today’s stage 1 debate on the Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill. I first suggested that we should do...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
Opposing the suggestion that MSPs who change political parties should be recalled, Mr Simpson, who is now a Reform MSP, said: “People switch parties for var...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Always speak through the chair.
Graham Simpson Reform
I am always happy to speak to Mr Gibson and to take up his offer of help. What he otherwise suggests is not something that I agree with. I think that it is ...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Graham Simpson Reform
If I get the time back.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is a wee bit of time at this point, if the member wishes to take the intervention.
Graham Simpson Reform
I will take one more intervention.
Sue Webber Con
What might you consider to be “a good reason”?
Graham Simpson Reform
If you are perfectly fit and able to come in, you should come in. That is the position. I turn to the committee report. I am grateful to the committee members—
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take another intervention?
Graham Simpson Reform
No, I will not take any more interventions—maybe I will do so later. I am grateful to the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee members fo...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Graham Simpson Reform
I am afraid not, Mr Cole-Hamilton—perhaps I will be able to give way during my closing speech. It could be that that element of the bill will be removed dur...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate Graham Simpson on getting his member’s bill to this stage. I recognise that it takes a lot of effort to progress a member’s bill through the P...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
I thank Graham Simpson for his open and constructive engagement on the bill, and the non-Government bills unit for its work on it. I, too, thank the Standard...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Will the minister give way?
Graeme Dey SNP
Absolutely.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
This is the intervention that I wanted to make during Graham Simpson’s opening speech; I still intend to make an intervention when he is making his closing r...
Graeme Dey SNP
I would certainly be prepared to explore that with the member. He gets to the nub of today’s activity: we should be exploring whether the proposals in front ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Martin Whitfield to speak on behalf of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. 15:21
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank everyone who contributed to the scrutiny of the Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) (Scotland) Bill; the respondents to the Standards...
Jackson Carlaw (Eastwood) (Con) Con
Will the member give way on that point?
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am more than happy to, Mr Carlaw.
Jackson Carlaw Con
Therein lies the problem, because, if we had passed this legislation in 2015, the hybrid arrangements that we now have would not have been reflected in it, a...
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am grateful for that intervention. It is true that there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns. We do not know what the position would have been if histo...
Sue Webber Con
Will the member give way?
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am happy to.
Sue Webber Con
I am recalling the committee’s discussion on the use of language and how we were careful not to use the word “excuse” in any of the recommendations in our re...