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Meeting of the Parliament 12 November 2025

12 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Bus Services

I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in the debate. Public transport is one of the most important issues to my constituents, and bus services are the most common source of complaint or concern, especially in rural areas.

I imagine that this will be as much of a shock to the Scottish Greens as it was to me, but I actually find points of agreement with their motion on the issue. They are quite correct to say

“that communities across Scotland deserve affordable, accessible and reliable bus services”.

At that point, unfortunately, our views diverge. They return to their safe space of demanding more free stuff that is paid for out of rising Government spending funded by ever-higher taxes on Scots, whereas I believe that the solutions lie in supporting the market to operate more effectively and that, if Scotland is going to offer young people the privilege of unlimited free bus travel at the taxpayers’ expense, there should be serious consequences for abusing that privilege. I await with interest the Scottish Government’s introducing legislation to address that matter.

The motion is a classic example of how the Scottish Greens approach policy: they call for lots of nice-sounding stuff and leave the practicalities to somebody else. An example is free bus travel for under-22s, which the Greens are now saying should be expanded. In principle, there is a lot to like. Giving young people the opportunity to travel to and from education or work and to visit more distant friends and family without the cost of bus fare is not a bad idea. However, it comes with a cost, not only in the troubling increase in antisocial behaviour both on buses and in bus stations, but in the other improvements to services that are not made because funds have been directed to subsidise free bus travel. Every policy comes with a trade-off, and it seems that we are sacrificing funding support for the basics in order to support and expand giveaways such as free bus travel.

Far too often in recent years, I have dealt with reports of antisocial behaviour by young people that is deterring other bus users from travelling. In Kilmarnock, antisocial behaviour in the bus station by young people, many of whom travel from outside the town, has been such an issue that it has required on-going interventions by Police Scotland and East Ayrshire Council. Time and again, I hear from constituents who feel unsafe using the bus station and avoid it after dark. That is not easy for anyone who commutes to and from work in the winter months.

Of course, antisocial behaviour is not the only issue with bus services. Although we often talk of public transport as though it is a single entity, a brief look at the bus and train timetables would tell us that that is not the case. That is not to mention the lack of joined-up infrastructure more generally. We know that the provision of good public transport infrastructure not only encourages people out of their cars but actually improves public health, as people choose to walk or cycle from the bus stop. Nevertheless, we continue to see an inconsistent approach to ensuring that key transport facilities and routes align with each other.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-19632, in the name of Mark Ruskell, on better bus services. I invite members who wish to speak in the deb...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
Scottish Green MSPs believe that everyone in Scotland deserves to benefit from affordable, accessible and reliable transport, including from their local bus ...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Does the member share the concerns of my constituents in South Scotland, particularly young people, who might have a free bus pass but not a bus service to r...
Mark Ruskell Green
Absolutely. The point of the debate is to look to the future and to the vision that we all want to create. The success of bus travel has not only been abou...
The Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity (Jim Fairlie) SNP
I thank Mark Ruskell for bringing the debate to the chamber. I welcome the opportunity to discuss the importance of local bus services and, in particular, to...
Craig Hoy Con
Will Mr Fairlie elaborate on the point that I made to Mr Ruskell, which is that one consequence of the expansion of concessionary travel is that the budget i...
Jim Fairlie SNP
I will come on to Craig Hoy’s point later in my speech. Although we are supportive of the Green Party motion that we are debating today, it is important tha...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Will the minister give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The minister is about to conclude.
Jim Fairlie SNP
I look forward to hearing members’ contributions this afternoon. It is clear that growing bus patronage and reflecting local circumstances in decision making...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, I must move on and call Sue Webber—we have no more time in hand.
Jim Fairlie SNP
I move, as an amendment to motion S6M-19632, to leave out from “further agrees” to end and insert: "recognises that competition is essential to keeping bus ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Sue Webber to speak to and move amendment S6M-19632.2. 16:18
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
I think that we can all agree on the importance of having better bus services across Scotland. Communities across Scotland deserve affordable, accessible and...
Jim Fairlie SNP
Does the member recognise—and rejoice at—the fact that the cabinet secretary and I had a round-table meeting with the Scottish road works commissioner and bu...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. I think that the member has enough to respond to.
Sue Webber Con
Could I get some of that time back, perhaps?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You can get a very short time back.
Sue Webber Con
It is fantastic that Mr Fairlie has had the opportunity to meet with the road works commissioner. I have tried on several occasions, but I have so far been u...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Claire Baker to speak to and move amendment S6M-19632.1 16:22
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I think that we all agree that buses are the backbone of Scotland’s public transport system. For many people, whether they are getting to work, school or hos...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (LD) LD
I remember sitting at the back on a school bus trip and singing that famous school bus trip song—not the one about the ejection of one’s grandmother from sai...
Patrick Harvie Green
Will the member give way?
Jamie Greene LD
I wish that I had the time, but I do not. I am sorry. In my region, bus travel has fallen by a third—that is 70 million fewer journeys just in the West Scot...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We turn to the open debate. I advise members that there is no time in hand. Any interventions must be absorbed within the agreed speaking time. 16:31
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
When it comes to buses, the Scottish Greens deliver. By granting under-22s free bus travel, we have seen hundreds of thousands more young people using Scotla...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) SNP
I will make a short contribution to the debate. I recognise the fundamental importance of buses as a mode of transport and as a social and economic lifeline ...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in the debate. Public transport is one of the most important issues to my constituents, and bus services are th...
Fiona Hyslop SNP
Will the member give way?
Brian Whittle Con
I am sorry—I do not have any time. I would love to extend the debate. While the Scottish Greens continue to peddle ideological fantasies as the solution to ...