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Meeting of the Parliament 11 November 2025

11 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Secondary Breast Cancer

I, too, thank Emma Harper for securing this important debate and for acknowledging the powerful work of Make 2nds Count and Breast Cancer Now in giving a voice to those who live with incurable secondary breast cancer.

Behind every statistic, there are real people—mothers, daughters, sisters and friends. There are people such as Rhoda, one of my constituents, who bravely shared her story with me by email. Rhoda was first diagnosed with secondary breast cancer back in 2012. She told me that, by the time she had found the lump, the cancer had already spread to her lymph nodes and bones. With surgery, radiotherapy and on-going hormone treatment, she was stable for many years and was able to continue to work full time and volunteer in her community. However, earlier this year, sadly, her cancer recurred and spread further.

Despite her courage and determination, Rhoda told me that what troubles her most is not her illness but the lack of progress in recording how many people in Scotland are living with advanced breast cancer. She asked me how we can plan cancer services when we do not even know how many people are affected. It is a simple but profound question, which gets to the heart of the debate.

As others have mentioned, we do not know how many people in Scotland are living with secondary breast cancer. Although new diagnoses are recorded, cases where breast cancer has returned or spread are not consistently tracked or published. As a result, thousands of people such as Rhoda are in effect missing from our health data. They are not reflected in official numbers, NHS Scotland does not plan consistently for them and, without being properly counted, they cannot receive the care and support that they need and deserve.

Almost 10 years ago, the Scottish Government committed to changing that. That commitment was renewed in the cancer action plan for 2023 to 2026. However, here we are, nearing the end of that plan period and the promise remains unfulfilled. As other members have done tonight, I therefore ask the minister to give us more information on that. Without comprehensive data, we cannot plan services, target resources or make fair and informed decisions about access to treatment. As Rhoda rightly pointed out, how can we decide which new cancer drugs to fund or negotiate fair prices with the companies if we do not even know how many people might benefit?

It is not just about data; it is about dignity and treatment. People who are living with secondary breast cancer deserve to be recognised, counted and properly cared for. We should have confidence that decisions about their treatment are built on real understanding, not on guesswork or gaps in information. We need to make sure that those who are living bravely with secondary breast cancer, like my constituent and many others across Scotland, are no longer invisible to the system. It should be there for them and we should know who they are.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-19043, in the name of Emma Harper, on supporting people living with secondary breast c...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful to colleagues across the parties in the chamber for supporting my motion, and I thank Make 2nds Count and Breast Cancer Now for their support a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Ms Harper—looking at the number of colleagues who want to participate, I am not sure that I agree that it is going to be a short debate. 17:29
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
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Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back, Ms Duncan-Glancy.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
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Emma Roddick (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
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Emma Roddick SNP
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Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank my colleague Emma Harper for bringing this debate to the chamber. Secondary breast cancer occurs when cancer cells spread beyond the breast, often mo...
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful to my colleague Emma Harper for securing this incredibly important debate. I also thank those who have joined us tonight in the public gallery ...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
I, too, thank Emma Harper for securing this important debate and for acknowledging the powerful work of Make 2nds Count and Breast Cancer Now in giving a voi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I am conscious that a couple of colleagues still want to participate in the debate. In order to have sufficient time to allow them to do so, I am minded to a...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate the member and colleagues on their contributions to date, but it would not be possible to contribute without speaking of our late colleague Ch...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I, too, thank Emma Harper for securing the debate, and I welcome and thank those who have joined us in the public gallery. As I outlined in a previous debate...
The Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health (Jenni Minto) SNP
I begin by expressing my sincere thanks not only to Emma Harper for bringing this important motion to the Parliament today but to my other fellow MSPs, who h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
That concludes the debate. Meeting closed at 18:19.