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Meeting of the Parliament 11 November 2025

11 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Secondary Breast Cancer

I thank my colleague Emma Harper for bringing this debate to the chamber. Secondary breast cancer occurs when cancer cells spread beyond the breast, often months or years after the primary diagnosis. It can also be found at the same time or even before the primary cancer. By the end of 2023, for 4,202 patients in Scotland, it was their initial diagnosis.

Despite the Scottish Government’s commitment in its 2016 strategy, “Beating Cancer: Ambition and Action”, and in its “Cancer Action Plan for Scotland 2023-2026” to improve data collection on secondary and metastatic cancers, data for secondary breast cancer is currently not routinely or consistently collected across Scotland. Public Health Scotland’s estimates only count people who had secondary breast cancer as their initial diagnosis and do not count diagnosis following a recurrence or spread of the disease. That is concerning, because breast cancer is one of the leading causes of death for women under 50.

We could reduce that statistic if data was collated both from those who were initially diagnosed with secondary breast cancer and from those who developed secondary breast cancer after an initial breast cancer diagnosis. That would help us to understand which populations see a recurrence of breast cancer and why, which treatments both sets of patients are accessing, what is working, which patients could try new treatments and whether both types of patients are getting the support that they need to cope with their diagnosis. Without knowing how many secondary breast cancer patients Scotland really has, how can the Scottish Government recruit enough specialists or properly workforce plan for tailored cancer services and support? Could screening and preventative health measures have reduced the risk?

I acknowledge that the debate is focused on supporting people living with secondary breast cancer but, predictably, I turn my thoughts to what we can do more of before that diagnosis. Artificial intelligence is transforming breast cancer imaging across multiple modalities, such as mammography, ultrasound, MRI and tomosynthesis. Recent studies show that AI can match—or, dare I say, outperform—radiologists in image reporting, which helps to reduce human error. However, its strength lies in amplification—doing more—and not in automation. AI gives health professionals more time with their patients and allows them to offer more personalised care and better patient choices. We need to invest in healthcare technology in Scotland’s NHS to make that the standard and give our NHS professionals the tools that they need to make a difference.

Alongside screening sits prevention. The European prospective investigation into cancer and nutrition—EPIC-Europe—which is co-funded by Cancer Research UK, is one of the biggest studies into the links between diet, lifestyle and cancer. Thirteen years ago, it found that those who were most physically active were 13 per cent less likely to develop breast cancer and that those who were moderately active had an 8 per cent lower chance of developing breast cancer. It is thought that physical activity may lower certain hormones and inflammation, helping to reduce the risk of breast cancer developing or progressing. We knew that 13 years ago but, according to the latest Scottish health survey, in 2024, only six in 10 adults in Scotland met the recommended levels of physical activity. The data has not significantly moved since 2012. Thirteen years ago, Sara Hiom, director of information at Cancer Research UK, said that we would be pleased to hear that

“You don’t have to train like an Olympic athlete”.

I am pleased to hear that. Exercise can include anything that leaves us slightly out of breath, such as doing the garden, walking the dog or housework. That is the whole point, but somehow that message is not getting to the communities that it needs to reach, and it is that lack of awareness that we need to address.

17:53  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
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Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful to colleagues across the parties in the chamber for supporting my motion, and I thank Make 2nds Count and Breast Cancer Now for their support a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Ms Harper—looking at the number of colleagues who want to participate, I am not sure that I agree that it is going to be a short debate. 17:29
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
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Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back, Ms Duncan-Glancy.
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Emma Roddick (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
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Emma Roddick SNP
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Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank my colleague Emma Harper for bringing this debate to the chamber. Secondary breast cancer occurs when cancer cells spread beyond the breast, often mo...
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful to my colleague Emma Harper for securing this incredibly important debate. I also thank those who have joined us tonight in the public gallery ...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
I, too, thank Emma Harper for securing this important debate and for acknowledging the powerful work of Make 2nds Count and Breast Cancer Now in giving a voi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I am conscious that a couple of colleagues still want to participate in the debate. In order to have sufficient time to allow them to do so, I am minded to a...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate the member and colleagues on their contributions to date, but it would not be possible to contribute without speaking of our late colleague Ch...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I, too, thank Emma Harper for securing the debate, and I welcome and thank those who have joined us in the public gallery. As I outlined in a previous debate...
The Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health (Jenni Minto) SNP
I begin by expressing my sincere thanks not only to Emma Harper for bringing this important motion to the Parliament today but to my other fellow MSPs, who h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
That concludes the debate. Meeting closed at 18:19.