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Meeting of the Parliament 05 November 2025 [Draft]

05 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Maternity Services

I agree—understaffing is one of the key problems in some of the distressing cases that I outlined and also in being able to provide safe midwifery-led services locally. I will come on to deal with that issue.

Research conducted by Labour found that, in 2024 alone, there were 333,296 unfilled nurse and midwifery shifts. Behind those figures are caring, experienced staff who are forced to make impossible choices due to the Scottish National Party’s managed decline of our NHS. Year after year, the Royal College of Midwives has repeatedly warned about workplace shortages and the lack of opportunity for midwives to develop their skills.

Finlay Carson might remember that, last year, there was the scandal of newly trained midwives facing unemployment. The Scottish Government had spent millions of pounds on their training but could not find the funding to give them jobs—at a time when there were thousands of vacancies.

We have no workforce plan, skills going to rot, mothers not getting the support that they need and experienced front-line staff going off sick or retiring with burnout. Midwives and other front-line staff are trying their best, but they are being set up to fail. I welcome the Scottish Government’s decision to set up a task force to take immediate action, but, by itself, that is not enough. The Government is littered with task forces and recommendations that have not been implemented.

We need a national investigation, not in place of the task force but alongside it, starting now. That is what the families want and what this Parliament should deliver. We need maternity services that wrap their arms around women and babies, rather than expecting women to wait for days on end to be induced because it is more convenient to do it that way. We need transparency, not secrecy. We need the duty of candour to be effective, rather than only words on a page. We need more than three specialist neonatal services to cover the diverse geography of Scotland. We need to learn from the best international practice, to deliver the highest standards of remote and rural care. We need a proper workforce plan that enshrines our investment in the next generation of midwives. That will pay off, so that maternity units are properly staffed. We need to ensure that we hold those at the top accountable, while fostering a workplace culture where staff feel supported and there is openness, transparency and willingness to learn from mistakes.

The United Kingdom Labour Government has delivered record funding for Scotland’s public services—an extra £5.2 billion to spend in this year alone. A fraction of that would have made a difference to maternity services. This is about investing in the next generation, in women’s health, in our rural communities and in Scotland’s future.

Today, MSPs of all parties have a chance to listen to the mums, dads, doctors and experts, and to agree to a national investigation into these crucial services so that mothers and babies can be safe and get the treatment that they need. [Interruption.] I am glad that a baby is having the last word.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-19512, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on Scotland’s maternity services. I invite members who wish to part...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
The birth of a child is probably the most significant and special event for any mother, but in Scotland today, sadly, that is not always the case. Last week,...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Jackie Baillie Lab
I am happy to do so.
Finlay Carson Con
Although patient safety is paramount, does the member accept that the reduction in the number of midwives through poor workplace management has reduced the c...
Jackie Baillie Lab
I agree—understaffing is one of the key problems in some of the distressing cases that I outlined and also in being able to provide safe midwifery-led servic...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Unfortunately, the baby cannot move the motion, Ms Baillie, so I would be grateful if you could do so. Laughter.
Jackie Baillie Lab
I move, That the Parliament is alarmed by the serious patient safety issues raised in recent inspection reports of maternity services, and calls on the Scot...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
I thank Jackie Baillie for lodging the motion for debate. I agree with a substantial amount of what she has put on the record today. I provided a statement ...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Does the cabinet secretary agree that the experience of women who miscarry needs to be looked at, too? One of my constituents had to wait while two parts of ...
Neil Gray SNP
I absolutely agree with Sarah Boyack. I expect that to be part of the improvements that need to come through from Healthcare Improvement Scotland’s review, b...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I thank the cabinet secretary for taking my intervention. I declare an interest as a practising NHS general practitioner. Repeated surveys show that obstetr...
Neil Gray SNP
I made it absolutely clear in response to questions from Dr Gulhane’s colleague Stephen Kerr last week about my very clear expectation for the culture in our...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will Neil Gray take an intervention?
Neil Gray SNP
I need to make some progress, so I hope that members will forgive me. I will see whether I can come to Mr Kerr later. I know that members of the Parliament ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Neil Gray SNP
I will try to come back to Pam Duncan-Glancy. I want to make progress, but I also want to ensure that colleagues have the opportunity to have their say. I w...
Jackie Baillie Lab
A national investigation would not be in place of the work that is going on—it would go alongside that and would recognise that this issue does not just affe...
Neil Gray SNP
I recognise the point that Jackie Baillie makes. I believe that the HIS inspection regime allows us to get into greater detail at local levels and allows us ...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I understand the cabinet secretary’s point, which is that he wants immediate action. However, in his statement last week, he set out a series of investigatio...
Neil Gray SNP
I disagree. Healthcare Improvement Scotland inspections have only begun this year to uncover the challenges that we have seen in Tayside and in Lothian. They...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
My colleague Marie Tidball MP has started a campaign about the experience of disabled people during maternity on the back of the London School of Hygiene and...
Neil Gray SNP
It absolutely has to be, of course; there is no equivocation on that. The new Scottish maternity and neonatal task force, which I announced last week, will ...
Stephen Kerr Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Neil Gray SNP
I do not know how much time I have left.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We have used up all the time in hand. I expect to extend the debate a little, given the nature of the discussions, but, as I say, we are over time.
Neil Gray SNP
If Mr Kerr could be pithy, I will take the intervention.
Stephen Kerr Con
I will be very pithy. Despite what the cabinet secretary says, I cannot see how, without a national inquiry, we can get to the issues of culture that he spok...
Neil Gray SNP
I have already said that, should the HIS inspections that we are getting before March, and the task force, recommend that course, that is what I will do. I b...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Will the cabinet secretary give way?