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Meeting of the Parliament 04 November 2025 [Draft]

04 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship
McCall, Roz Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

We have heard some powerful contributions from across the chamber and I thank colleagues from all parties for recognising the importance of this debate.

The speeches from Jackie Dunbar and Beatrice Wishart were both very strong, because they came from a personal angle. We can never underestimate coercion and we can never underestimate what an abuser will do.

Let us be clear about what the committee report tells us. Four years after these issues were first raised, basic financial protections for victims of domestic abuse are still missing. I thank the Social Justice and Social Security Committee for taking action on the issue and for producing the report, and I thank the clerks and everyone who gave evidence to the committee.

It is not acceptable that the changes to the process are not further up the priority list; that failure lies squarely with the Scottish Government. I have to agree with Karen Adam: it is disappointing that there has been no civil legal aid legislation in this session. Victims of domestic abuse deserve better. They deserve a Government that acts with urgency, not one that issues warm words while survivors are forced to choose between safety and destitution.

Women’s Aid told the committee that survivors with even modest savings may be left paying for the home they fled while trying to rebuild their lives elsewhere. Engender and Shelter Scotland described women and children being placed in hotels for weeks because councils have nowhere else for them to go. Citizens Advice Scotland warned that debt rules can leave only £1,000 in a bank account. Such rules could literally stop a woman from leaving her abuser. Those are not abstract policy failures; they are barriers that trap victims who are in danger.

My friend and colleague Alexander Stewart highlighted that there is one incident of domestic abuse every eight minutes. That is a horrific statistic and it highlights how important it is that we do something more about this issue.

Mr Stewart, Bob Doris and Maggie Chapman all mentioned that victims might have to approach 11 different services before they get any assistance, which shows that there is a fundamental gap in our system. In her initial speech, Carol Mochan highlighted the need for better knowledge and advertising of the help that is out there so that victims can get the support that they need. That is something that could happen now.

I turn to the minister’s contribution, because she mentioned that there are three or four separate consultations and reviews on the back of the reports from both committees. That only represents further delay, however, because the reports already highlight what needs to be changed. Tangible changes to the system are required, not further consultation and reviews of work that has already begun. I am sorry, but I say to the minister that asking officials to simply consider the report for the next equally safe strategy is not enough. We could have seen much more action if only it had been a priority for the Government. Leadership is what is required now; what has been announced is cold comfort for victims of abuse, given that we are not doing more.

Finally, I highlight the contribution from Pam Gosal, who is actively trying to do something in this space with her Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill. We should congratulate Ms Gosal on all the hard work that she has put in to introduce the bill.

The committee has called for commonsense deliverable actions. It asks the Government to make permanent the fund to leave, in order to cover deposits, travel and essentials when a survivor escapes abuse; to guarantee year-round funding for discretionary housing payments so that no council runs out mid-year; to review the Scottish welfare fund to make it consistent, trauma informed and accessible; and to ensure that the equally safe strategy delivers not just aspirations but real, practical financial support. However, progress in that regard remains painfully slow.

The committee has done its job. It has listened to survivors, charities and those on the front line, and the evidence is clear. What is missing now is leadership. The Scottish Conservatives are calling on the SNP Government to stop deflecting and actively move forward to support victims of domestic abuse, because every day of delay risks another victim being turned away, another survivor being forced to return to an unsafe home and another life being put at risk because the system could not help in time.

Let us not make victims pay the price of Government inaction—let us work together to ensure that financial barriers are never again a reason for someone to stay with their abuser. The time for reviews and rhetoric has passed; we need common sense, compassion and action now.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a Social Justice and Social Security Committee debate on motion S6M-19487, in the name of Bob Doris, on financial considerations...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
On behalf of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, I am pleased to open the debate. Before I discuss the substantive issues that the committee ex...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you. I call Karen Adam to speak on behalf of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. 14:38
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to contribute in my capacity as the convener of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. I also welcome the report...
The Minister for Equalities (Kaukab Stewart) SNP
I am pleased to represent the Scottish Government in this important debate. I thank members of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee for undertaki...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
As a member of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, I am pleased to speak about the findings of our inquiry into financial considerations when l...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank the other members of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee for preparing this important contribution to our national discussion. I am now ...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
Poverty, inequality and unresponsive, sometimes heartless, benefits and justice systems trap people—overwhelmingly women—in abusive homes. The report from th...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I, too, put on record my thanks to the members of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, the clerks and all those who provided evidence for this i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
We move to the open debate. Back-bench speeches should be up to four minutes, and I advise members that there is no time in hand. 15:07
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
As a member of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate . According to Police Scotland, more than 6...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Before I begin, I thank the Social Justice and Social Security Committee for securing the debate, all the clerks who put together the report, and all the org...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
I, too, thank the committee, the clerks and the expert witnesses who helped in the creation of the report. I say an especially grateful thank you to everyone...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I add my thanks to the committee and all the stakeholders who participated in the inquiry—particularly those who are victims of domestic violence. I am plea...
Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to participate in this important debate, and I welcome the committee’s report. I am a previous member of the Social Justice...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
As a member of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, I add my thanks to those who gave evidence—in particular, those who gave their personal expe...
Bob Doris SNP
Will Jeremy Balfour give way?
Jeremy Balfour Ind
I am afraid that I do not have time. Let us be clear. The SNP Government has had its powers over social security and housing for years, yet women’s refuges ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to closing speeches. I advise that there is no time in hand and that any interventions should be absorbed within the member’s agreed speaking tim...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I refer colleagues to my entry in the register of members’ interests. Prior to my election, I worked for a rape crisis centre. I apologise—I should have said...
Carol Mochan Lab
In closing, I say again how significant the report is in contributing to the change that we all know needs to be made for women and girls who are fleeing dom...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Roz McCall to close on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. 15:37
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
We have heard some powerful contributions from across the chamber and I thank colleagues from all parties for recognising the importance of this debate. The...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call the minister, Kaukab Stewart, to wind up on behalf of the Scottish Government. 15:42
Kaukab Stewart SNP
The debate has certainly given us the opportunity to reflect on the financial barriers to leaving an abuser. As we have heard, those barriers are complex and...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, minister. I call Bob Doris to wind up the debate on behalf of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. 15:49
Bob Doris SNP
As is traditional, I thank all members for their excellent contributions, but it was remiss of me at the start not to also thank our committee’s clerking tea...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
There will be a brief pause before we move to the next item of business.