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Meeting of the Parliament 04 November 2025 [Draft]

04 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship
Chapman, Maggie Green North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I refer colleagues to my entry in the register of members’ interests. Prior to my election, I worked for a rape crisis centre. I apologise—I should have said that earlier.

I begin my closing speech by thanking the Social Justice and Social Security Committee members, clerks and, most importantly, the women of the survivor reference group, whose experiences and insights make the report so powerful. Their testimony leaves us in no doubt. Financial barriers are among the most effective tools that abusers use to trap and punish. Too often, those barriers are reinforced, not dismantled, by our public systems.

The committee found that women might have to contact 11 different services before finding the support that they need, or 17 if they are from a minority ethnic background. Imagine the exhaustion and retraumatisation of retelling your story to strangers again and again, simply to survive. The report calls for trauma-informed training across all agencies. It should be mandatory. Every interaction, whether it be with a housing officer, benefits adviser or solicitor, can either empower a survivor to take the next step or drive them back into danger.

The Scottish Greens have long argued that homelessness and abuse are inseparable issues. The report highlights that 5,000 people become homeless each year because of domestic abuse and many of them lose their homes while the perpetrators remain in place. That is why I am proud that Ross Greer’s amendment to the Housing (Scotland) Bill means that the Scottish Government is now required to review council tax arrears when domestic abuse is a factor. No woman should be chased for debts that were created through her abuse. No one should lose a home for trying to survive.

The committee’s findings on public debt also make clear how the state can perpetuate economic abuse, from council tax collection to housing arrears. We must end the shaming of survivors through punitive debt recovery.

On legal aid, as we have heard clearly this afternoon, the committee’s evidence was damning. Scarcity, bureaucracy and inadequate funding mean that survivors face impossible choices. Legal aid cannot be a postcode lottery or a privilege for the well-resourced—it is a human right. The Scottish Government’s commitment to reform is welcome, but reform must mean universal trauma-informed access, not further review and delay.

The evidence on social security is just as stark. There are delays in the Scottish welfare fund, a five-week wait for universal credit that drives women into debt before they even leave and split payments that are still undelivered after eight years.

This is a moral test for our Parliament. We cannot claim to stand against gender-based violence while tolerating systems that tie survivors to their abusers through poverty and bureaucracy. Financial independence is safety. Economic justice is freedom. Real justice means building a society in which no woman has to weigh her safety against her solvency.

I look forward to the day when no one in Scotland is trapped in an abusive home for financial reasons and when our legal, social security and housing systems are not barriers but bridges to freedom and dignity. That day cannot come soon enough.

15:33  

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The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
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Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
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Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
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Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
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Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
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Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP) SNP
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Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
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Bob Doris SNP
Will Jeremy Balfour give way?
Jeremy Balfour Ind
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to closing speeches. I advise that there is no time in hand and that any interventions should be absorbed within the member’s agreed speaking tim...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
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Carol Mochan Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Roz McCall to close on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. 15:37
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
We have heard some powerful contributions from across the chamber and I thank colleagues from all parties for recognising the importance of this debate. The...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call the minister, Kaukab Stewart, to wind up on behalf of the Scottish Government. 15:42
Kaukab Stewart SNP
The debate has certainly given us the opportunity to reflect on the financial barriers to leaving an abuser. As we have heard, those barriers are complex and...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, minister. I call Bob Doris to wind up the debate on behalf of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. 15:49
Bob Doris SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
There will be a brief pause before we move to the next item of business.