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Meeting of the Parliament 30 October 2025

30 Oct 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Eagle, Tim Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

It is not—I accept that. It is not about not getting it right; it is about having all the information at hand early on, so that we can be sure that we are having the right debates and discussions as early in the bill process as possible. The same goes for the rural support plan, which—FYI—we are still waiting for.

The stage 1 report warned that the Government risks eroding trust in the deer management sector. I urge the Government to work to protect that.

I will quickly highlight the letter that the Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity sent this morning to the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, on grouse moor licensing schemes, which were agreed only recently under the Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Act 2024. The argument is that they are not working as intended. My understanding is that there is absolutely no evidence to support that at this point, and amendments such as those proposed risk potentially further broadening what is already a very broad bill and will require significant debate at stage 2. Although I recognise the minister’s right to do that, I hope that he is prepared to facilitate as much consultation and discussion as he can on that issue.

Although the Scottish Conservatives will support the principles of the bill today, we have some reservations about how it might progress. Our concern is that, without proper partnership, and respect for rural livelihoods and food security, the bill risks being a source of tension rather than collaboration.

14:54  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
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The Cabinet Secretary for Climate Action and Energy (Gillian Martin) SNP
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The Cabinet Secretary for Climate Action and Energy (Gillian Martin) SNP
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Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
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Gillian Martin SNP
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Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Gillian Martin SNP
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Sarah Boyack Lab
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Gillian Martin SNP
The reason why I wanted to finish the point before I took Sarah Boyack’s intervention was because I wanted to stress that I am listening and am thinking of l...
Gillian Martin SNP
I wanted to finish the point before I took Sarah Boyack’s intervention because I wanted to stress that I am listening and am thinking of lodging my own amend...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I remind members who wish to speak in the debate to press their request-to-speak buttons. 14:41
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak on behalf of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee to set out the findings of our stage 1 report. The committee began its scrutiny of...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak on behalf of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee to set out the findings of our stage 1 report. The committee began its scrutiny of...
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests—I have a small farm up in Moray. After an eventful week with the Land Reform (Scotland) B...
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests—I have a small farm up in Moray. After an eventful week with the Land Reform (Scotland) B...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Some of the challenge in deer management comes from the differences between Highland and lowland deer management. My understanding is that the code of practi...
Tim Eagle Con
I agree with that. There is a big difference between upland and lowland deer management, and it is essential that the code of practice recognises that and ta...
The Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity (Jim Fairlie) SNP
I ask the member whether the urgency to have all that delivered before the stage 1 debate, when we still have stages 2 and 3 to go, is a bigger imperative fo...
Tim Eagle Con
It is not—I accept that. It is not about not getting it right; it is about having all the information at hand early on, so that we can be sure that we are ha...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
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Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Sarah Boyack Lab
Yes, if it is brief.
Maurice Golden Con
Does Sarah Boyack agree that we need to define what a national park looks like so that we can have a meaningful consultation with communities?
Sarah Boyack Lab
Defining boundaries is important, but it is also about giving national parks support so that they can fulfil their full potential to lead on nature recovery,...
Sarah Boyack Lab
Defining boundaries is important, but it is also about giving national parks support so that they can fulfil their full potential to lead on nature recovery,...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
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Tim Eagle Con
Will Mark Ruskell take an intervention?
Mark Ruskell Green
If there is time in hand, I will.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is a brief amount of time in hand.
Tim Eagle Con
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