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Meeting of the Parliament 28 October 2025 [Draft]

28 Oct 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Business Motion
Mountain, Edward Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I did, and I will come to that. For example, in group 7, a member who has two amendments will get five minutes to speak to them, as will a member who has no amendments. A member who has 15 amendments will also be given five minutes—or 20 seconds for each amendment.

The Parliamentary Bureau was asked for some latitude and to allow speakers up to 10 minutes in groups in which they have numerous amendments. That has obviously been rejected. It could be argued that, if the member with 15 amendments had split those among their colleagues, giving them one each, that would have created an extra 75 minutes of debating time. I am not going to play that sort of game. Ideocracy would perhaps appease some but would increase the speaking time by seven times--that is why it is a nonsensical format.

I am a committed parliamentarian. I am also a realist. I want to debate issues. I want to make good legislation for the people of Scotland that everyone in the chamber can be proud of. I accept that not all amendments will be approved, but preventing them from being fully explored when the advice is that the bill is flawed and ill-conceived is undemocratic.

I urge members to vote against the business motion. It shows the very worst of the Parliament, which is being given an archaic clerical formulary procedure that shuts down debate and increases the likelihood of bad legislation. To be clear, a vote for the business motion is a vote to put timekeeping before debate and over good legislation, which is an affront to democracy. On that basis, I urge members to vote against the motion.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S6M-19429, in the name of Graeme Dey, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a time...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Edward Mountain. 14:56
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I rise to speak against the business motion, which sets out the timings for the important stage 3 debate on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill. Before I say why...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Let us hear the member, please.
Edward Mountain Con
I believe that many of the stage 3 amendments would help to improve the bill. The problem is that we will not fully debate them. Why? The Parliament is limit...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am grateful to Edward Mountain for taking an intervention on this point. If we look to the timing motion that is before us today, outreach was made in the ...
Edward Mountain Con
I did, and I will come to that. For example, in group 7, a member who has two amendments will get five minutes to speak to them, as will a member who has no ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Graeme Dey to respond on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau. 15:02
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
The Parliamentary Bureau appreciates that the member has a number of amendments at stage 3 and is keen to have an opportunity to discuss them all in the cham...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The question is, that motion S6M-19429 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There will be a division. There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system. 15:03 Meeting suspended. 15:10 On resuming—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the vote on motion S6M-19429. Members should cast their votes now. The vote is closed.
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app did not work. I would have voted no.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Ms White. I note that your app was not working. Your vote will be recorded.
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I had a problem with my phone. I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Kidd. Your vote will be recorded.
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I had a similar situation to Bill Kidd. My phone would not connect for the vote.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Ms Grahame—
Christine Grahame SNP
Postscript: I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Ms Grahame. Your vote will be recorded.
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I had a similar issue. I would have voted no.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Balfour. Your vote will be recorded.
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I had connection problems. I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Leonard. Your vote will be recorded.
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Ms McNeill. Your vote will be recorded. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Mothe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The result of the division on motion S6M-19429, in the name of Graeme Dey, is: For 86, Against 29, Abstentions 0. Motion agreed to, That the Parliament agr...