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Meeting of the Parliament 01 October 2025 [Draft]

01 Oct 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Mobile Phones in Schools

Presiding Officer,

“It helped me focus.”

“Fights and bullying at breaks have got better—because no one has their phones in class to organise them.”

“I spend more time talking to my friends now.”

“I’m glad the temptation to go on my phone has gone.”

That is what young people told me about a ban on mobile phones in school classrooms when I met them last week, and that is why Scottish Labour has lodged a straightforward motion with a straightforward purpose: to ban mobile phones for learners in classrooms across Scotland in order to help to make classrooms calm and safe places to learn. We propose that because education is crucial. It is the ladder to opportunity for all, and it is our job to move anything that stands in the way of that vital goal.

All colleagues across the chamber know that there are many obstacles to that goal and that the atmosphere in too many classrooms is challenging for learning and teaching. Teachers are overworked and are firefighting disruption. The scaffolding that should be there to hold our young people up—timely mental health support, speech and language services and educational psychologists—has all been stretched thin, and in some cases it is non-existent. Bullying is up by nearly 200 per cent in just five years. A School Leaders Scotland survey found that pupil behaviour is increasingly difficult to manage, and the Government’s behaviour in Scottish schools research cites phones and social media as a factor, recognising that they are seriously disruptive.

Amid all of that, we are still allowing that disruption in classes and letting the online world pour into the school day through the rectangle in a young person’s pocket, with the constant of notifications, group chats, viral clickbait and rising amounts of harmful content. The cabinet secretary says that headteachers are empowered to end that if they see fit, but that is not leadership; that is passing the buck. Local delivery is indeed crucial, but it is the Government’s job to set clear expectations, and that is why I cannot accept the Government’s amendment to the motion. It leaves us where we are now, and I am not prepared to stand still on the future for our young people.

The pupils I met last week told me that, when the temptation is removed, they talk to their friends more, they concentrate more, they feel calmer and they can hear themselves think. A national ban on phones in class would free young people and empower staff and parents. It would change the temperature in the room and draw a sensible boundary during lessons so that pupils can concentrate and teachers can teach. Importantly, it can be implemented in a way that involves young people, engages parents and empowers schools. Leaving it up to headteachers lacks leadership and passes the buck.

Where the Government has failed to lead, schools have stepped in. In Portobello, the model is simple and it is delivered in a rights-protecting way. Pupils keep their property, but it is locked in a pouch for class and unlocked at lunch—not at break. Pupils can unlock it to call home if they need to, and pupils who need more regular access to their phones—for example, pupils with additional support needs or caring responsibilities and some pupils in the senior phase who might need messages about work—can access them. In Notre Dame high school in Glasgow, staff and pupils manage a clear off and away rule, together with classroom routines that everyone understands. Those are two different models with the same outcomes: more attention, fewer flashpoints and more time on task.

However, leadership cannot stop at the school gate. The Government issued guidance and then shrugged. We therefore have a postcode lottery, with teachers left to bear the weight of that crucial decision and parents left to navigate mixed messages. Empowerment without direction is abdication, and our motion corrects that.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-19123, in the name of Pam Duncan-Glancy, on mobile phones in schools. 14:52
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Presiding Officer, “It helped me focus.” “Fights and bullying at breaks have got better—because no one has their phones in class to organise them.” “I spe...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
I am interested in the member’s point about a postcode lottery. In Scotland, the Education (Scotland) Act 1980 makes it clear that statutory responsibility f...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I draw the cabinet secretary’s attention to section 2 of the 1980 act, which has regulating-making powers for the Government in a wide range of areas. One ha...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
In the absence of the iPads that the SNP promised, where teachers want to use devices in lessons in schools where bans exist, teachers have the option to say...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You do not really have time, Ms Duncan-Glancy.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I apologise to Karen Adam, but I cannot take her intervention. With a national ban, the default changes from phones first to learning first. That is what we...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that, as ever when there are two debates during the afternoon, we are pretty tight for time. There is not a lot of additional time. 15:00
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
The Government agrees with the premise behind the Scottish Labour Party’s motion that mobile phones should be banned in our schools. The motion from Labour i...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
The point that I made when I set out why we are proposing the motion is that you are leaving it up to headteachers to take a big decision on what goes on in ...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I say to the member, very gently, that it is quite clear in the national guidance that our headteachers are already empowered to carry out mobile phone bans....
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I am happy to do so.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
We are not proposing primary legislation. What I said was that the cabinet secretary is the person who said that legislation was required. If you chose to do...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Always speak through the chair.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
As I have just intimated, whether or not it is primary legislation that is being proposed—I hear the member’s point in relation to regulations—I have to ask ...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank the Labour Party for holding a debate on mobile phone use in schools. The Scottish Conservatives held a similar debate in January this year, and I am...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Pam Duncan-Glancy quoted young people welcoming the change of policy on phones in classrooms, and she talked about having a sensible boundary during lessons....
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I think that there is agreement that the use of mobile phones in the class can be incredibly distracting. There is growing evidence from across the education...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 15:18
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I believe that it is time to ban mobile phones in all Scottish classrooms. We need to shield children from harmful content, misinformation, bullying and othe...
Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP) SNP
I thank Pam Duncan-Glancy for bringing the motion for debate in the chamber. Many of us have had casework on the issue over the past few years. East Lothian ...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Some of the children whom I have spoken to in East Lothian and beyond say that they use their mobile devices in classrooms as a learning aid. Is the member e...
Paul McLennan SNP
No, I am not embarrassed. The Government has made good progress on that. We need to equip headteachers with guidance and with the means to act in the best i...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
Paul McLennan SNP
I am sorry, but I only have four minutes, and I have already taken one intervention. The Government is now providing schools with comprehensive guidance on ...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak in support of Pam Duncan-Glancy’s motion, which calls for mobile phones to be banned for learners in school classrooms. We...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
How about that? A Government that is not distracted by manufacturing grievance all day long—that would be quite an improvement on the Government that we have...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Will the member take an intervention?